Re: Oracle and Postgresql

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> From: pgsql-general-owner(at)postgresql(dot)org [mailto:pgsql-general-
> owner(at)postgresql(dot)org] On Behalf Of Blazej
> Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 9:24 PM
> To: 0123 zyxw
> Cc: Kevin Hunter; mailtoyahoo(at)gmail(dot)com; Postgres General List; Ron
Mayer
> Subject: Re: [GENERAL] Oracle and Postgresql
>
> 2008/9/9 0123 zyxw <0123zyxw(at)gmail(dot)com>:
> > Kevin Hunter wrote:
> >>
> >> 1. Oracle was "first", and has vendor lock-in momentum.
> >> 2. Oracle ...speed/performance/concurrency...
> >> 3. Oracle has application lock-in as well. ...
> >> 4. Oracle is company-backed, so there is ostensibly "someone to
> blame"..
> >> 5. ... individuals ... may prefer it *because* it's expensive...
> >> 6. Mucho better advertising to the right people....
> >> 7. ...print-version...
> >
> > 8. Oracle salespeople will help B2B software companies help sell
> > and bid on larger oracle-based products and projects.
> >
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>
> 1. Maybe ...
> 2. Of course, like others DBMS, but how many people knows how it's
> configure? Are you configure ORACLE DBMS? 1000+ strange parameters and
> don't tell me that they are well document. The same with Oracle Apps.
> 3. Are you kidding? Are you work with Oracle AS, ifs, cmsdk etc? I've
> never seen so "good", "fast" and "scalable" software.
> 4. Software "AS IS" - no comment.
> 5. ? Lets look:
> with Oracle:
> App = Oracle licences + yours work = X (and pay for everything - help,
> support etc.),
> with PostgreSQL:
> App = 0 for licences + work = Y,
> if X=Y who has more profits?
>
> 6. Agree :-((( Oracle marketing is realy the best.
> 7. ?
> 8. As I say in 5. - pay for everything - if you are money everybady
> helps you (even I, and if you pay 1.000.000 $ I say Oracle is the
> best, like other Oracle experts).
>
> Regards,
> Blazej
>

My top 10 reasons why companies pick Oracle.
1. 24x7 Support
2. Security: Patches, Row Level Security, Roles, encryption, protection
of database code, etc.
3. Software indemnification (which is open source's biggest problem)
4. Scalability of shared disk (Oracle RAC)
5. Works extremely well from anything from hosting LDAP to OLTP
applications to data warehouses with ROLAP and MOLAP
6. Best, oldest, and most proven concurrency model for any commercial
database product
7. Runs great on various platforms not just Linux or just Windows
8. Recruiting a senior level Oracle professional with over 10 years of
experience is not very difficult
9. Deep, deep discounts. I've never seen any company pay list price
for Oracle products. It has always been at least 50% off if not more.
10. Sales employees that will do anything to retain or grow your
business.

The initial price of the product factors into the equation for big
companies but when you look at all the value add of Oracle, it is very
tempting.

Jon