Re: Reducing pg_ctl's reaction time

From: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
To: Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>
Cc: Jeff Janes <jeff(dot)janes(at)gmail(dot)com>, Michael Paquier <michael(dot)paquier(at)gmail(dot)com>, PostgreSQL mailing lists <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Reducing pg_ctl's reaction time
Date: 2017-06-26 20:49:07
Message-ID: 19812.1498510147@sss.pgh.pa.us
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Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de> writes:
> Arguably we could and should improve the logic when the server has
> started, right now it's pretty messy because we never treat a standby as
> up if hot_standby is disabled...

True. If you could tell the difference between "HS disabled" and "HS not
enabled yet" from pg_control, that would make pg_ctl's behavior with
cold-standby servers much cleaner. Maybe it *is* worth messing with the
contents of pg_control at this late hour.

My inclination for the least invasive fix is to leave the DBState
enum alone and add a separate hot-standby state field with three
values (disabled/not-yet-enabled/enabled). Then pg_ctl would start
probing the postmaster when it saw either DB_IN_PRODUCTION DBstate
or hot-standby-enabled. (It'd almost not have to probe the postmaster
at all, except there's a race condition that the startup process
will probably change the field a little before the postmaster gets
the word to open the gates.) On the other hand, if it saw
DB_IN_ARCHIVE_RECOVERY with hot standby disabled, it'd stop waiting.

Any objections to that design sketch? Do we need to distinguish
between master and slave servers in the when-to-stop-waiting logic?

regards, tom lane

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