Re: Triaging the remaining open commitfest items

From: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
To: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
Cc: Andrew Dunstan <andrew(at)dunslane(dot)net>, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Triaging the remaining open commitfest items
Date: 2015-05-14 22:48:24
Message-ID: 13529.1431643704@sss.pgh.pa.us
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Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us> writes:
> On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 05:37:07PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
>> [ shrug... ] Andrew had unilaterally removed me as committer from that
>> patch back in January or so, so it dropped way down my priority list.
>> I'm willing to move it back up now, but I could do without people
>> expressing a sense of entitlement to my time. In any case, Andres is

> I am trying not to express any entitlement. I do have a problem with
> people claiming things that block others.

Well, I was and remain concerned that the patch would do a great deal of
violence to basic system structure. If I'd had adequate time to work on
it I would have attempted to fix it, but I have not had that kind of time.
In the meantime, the patch was not claimed and I was not particularly
blocking anyone else from claiming it. Plenty of stuff gets committed
around here without my blessing.

>> currently the committer of record, and if he decides to push it in the
>> next 24 hours, I'm not doing anything more to stand in his way than
>> Robert already did.

> Uh, did Robert delay work on the patch in any way?

I was merely agreeing with the concerns Robert expressed in
<CA+TgmoZt0Q=Odx-pL+9Zc6Qyf1A5_2hMBWgaEUdoWgW=JveP6Q(at)mail(dot)gmail(dot)com>
that we'd do well to avoid committing any more large-and-not-quite-
fully-baked patches at this point. If Andres decides it's baked enough,
that's his responsibility and prerogative as a committer.

> True, but I have problems with leaders acting in a way that is unfair to
> those with less power. Have you considered how demoralizing it is to
> work in an unfair environment? Unfairness happens, but as leaders, we
> are supposed to try to avoid it, not cause it.

TBH, every time somebody beats me up about not having dropped everything
else to spend a month on this patch, it just makes me want to back away
further. I haven't had the time, and I really could do without
accusations of that being unfair.

regards, tom lane

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