Re: smart shutdown at end of transaction (was: Default mode for shutdown)

From: Wolfgang Wilhelm <wolfgang20121964(at)yahoo(dot)de>
To: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)com>
Cc: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)commandprompt(dot)com>, Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: smart shutdown at end of transaction (was: Default mode for shutdown)
Date: 2012-04-30 08:55:08
Message-ID: 1335776108.83770.YahooMailNeo@web28411.mail.ukl.yahoo.com
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Just for the ones interested in a view on another turf:

In Oracle "shutdown immediate" is the fastest _clean_ shutdown and "shutdown abort" is equal to "shutdown immediate" in PG.
The other modes are called "shutdown normal" and "shutdown transactional".

Wolfgang

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Von: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
An: Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)com>
CC: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>; Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)commandprompt(dot)com>; Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>; PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Gesendet: 20:48 Freitag, 27.April 2012
Betreff: Re: [HACKERS] smart shutdown at end of transaction (was: Default mode for shutdown)

Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)com> writes:
> On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 7:29 PM, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:
>> No, I'm not happy with that.  Smart shutdown is defined to not affect
>> current sessions.  I'm fine with having a fourth mode that acts as you
>> suggest (and, probably, even with making it the default); but not with
>> taking away a behavior that people may well be relying on.

> Agreed, but not sure what to call the new mode: "smarter"?

I'm not necessarily opposed to commandeering the name "smart" for the
new behavior, so that what we have to find a name for is the old "smart"
behavior.  How about

    slow    - allow existing sessions to finish (old "smart")
    smart    - allow existing transactions to finish (new)
    fast    - kill active queries
    immediate - unclean shutdown

            regards, tom lane

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