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Re: PostgreSQL derivatives

From: Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>
To: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
Cc: Robert Treat <xzilla(at)users(dot)sourceforge(dot)net>, pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org, Seth Grimes <grimes(at)altaplana(dot)com>
Subject: Re: PostgreSQL derivatives
Date: 2008-06-12 05:37:40
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On Thu, 2008-06-12 at 00:05 -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> Simon Riggs wrote:
> > > Greenplum does distribute an open source product, specifically the bizgres 
> > > database. It's not widely used, but it is still available, so they should 
> > > probably be credited as such. 
> > 
> > Greenplum sponsored my efforts to include Partitioning and Sort
> > improvements into 8.1 and 8.2 respectively, and have contributed at
> > least 3 other patches that the community has rejected (for whatever
> > reason). IMHO, Bizgres was really their way of showing that useful work
> > had been done, but I agree it is out of date now in many respects
> > because and only because it hasn't been updated since 8.1.
> The bottom line is that Greenplum is fading farther and farther from
> Postgres community involvement, as far as I can tell.  :-(

I agree with that assessment. I don't think it's a desirable or
unchangeable outcome, which is why I initially refused to attend the
recent EnterpriseDB-sponsored developer meeting unless Greenplum people
were also invited. I would like to see people encourage their
participation. When the project allowed one company to sponsor the
meeting it made a huge error, especially when the project had no need
for the funding. It sent the wrong message and I noted that Truviso were
not represented either, on the day. I am worried about contribution
levels from all companies and also note that EnterpriseDB's real
contributions to the community of late are not significantly larger than
2ndQuadrant's, now you've spurred me to think about the topic. What can
we do to actively encourage participation from all companies?

 Simon Riggs 
 PostgreSQL Training, Services and Support

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