Re: We all are looped on Internet: request + transport = invariant

Hi Dmitry,

On Wed, 2007-04-25 at 10:47 +0300, Dmitry Turin wrote:
> J> And there's nothing wrong with Perl, PHP, Python and the myriad
> J> interface languages.
>
> I said many times, what is wrong:
> applied users can not join sql and perl, can not use libraries,
> and can not adjust web-server.

I strongly disagree. I have not taken any formal courses on PHP, HTML,
Apache or Python, and I only took a couple of week-long courses on SQL
ages ago (Perl I don't care for). Yet I've learned enough on my own to
"join" them and use their libraries and put up a website. And I believe
there are others on this list and elsewhere that have done so, to
varying degrees. And yet others may require the assistance of a
technical specialist or a full-time programming team, but what's wrong
with that?

> J> thousands of users may agree and converge on those choices.
>
> 1. Not users, but programmers.
> 2. Needs are produced also, as goods and capital goods.
> Karl Marks
> For example, look at yourself.

We are on diametrically opposed sides of that argument, but it's
off-topic, so I'll leave it alone.

Joe