Re: Postgres: pg_hba.conf, md5, pg_shadow, encrypted

From: Tino Wildenhain <tino(at)wildenhain(dot)de>
To: Rod Taylor <pg(at)rbt(dot)ca>
Cc: bugtraq(at)securityfocus(dot)com, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org, Stephen Frost <sfrost(at)snowman(dot)net>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, "Jim C(dot) Nasby" <decibel(at)decibel(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Postgres: pg_hba.conf, md5, pg_shadow, encrypted
Date: 2005-04-21 13:47:33
Message-ID: 1114091254.10488.6.camel@sabrina.peacock.de
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Am Donnerstag, den 21.04.2005, 09:32 -0400 schrieb Rod Taylor:
> On Thu, 2005-04-21 at 11:06 +0200, Tino Wildenhain wrote:
> > Am Mittwoch, den 20.04.2005, 16:23 -0500 schrieb Jim C. Nasby:
> > > On Wed, Apr 20, 2005 at 05:03:18PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> > ...
> > > Simply put, MD5 is no longer strong enough for protecting secrets. It's
> > > just too easy to brute-force. SHA1 is ok for now, but it's days are
> > > numbered as well. I think it would be good to alter SHA1 (or something
> > > stronger) as an alternative to MD5, and I see no reason not to use a
> > > random salt instead of username.
> >
> > I wonder where you want to store that random salt and how this would add
> > to the security.
>
> One advantage of a random salt would be that the username can be changed
> without having to reset the password at the same time.

Still this does not answer the question where that salt is to be
stored :)

(instead of username one could use somefacyhash(userid) to be
independend from username - otoh, if you change usernames
you usually face some other serious problems like object
ownership and friends)
--
Tino Wildenhain <tino(at)wildenhain(dot)de>

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