From: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> |
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To: | "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin(dot)Grittner(at)wicourts(dot)gov> |
Cc: | "Christopher Browne" <cbbrowne(at)gmail(dot)com>, "Robert Haas" <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org |
Subject: | Re: Last gasp |
Date: | 2012-04-10 16:35:58 |
Message-ID: | 10796.1334075758@sss.pgh.pa.us |
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"Kevin Grittner" <Kevin(dot)Grittner(at)wicourts(dot)gov> writes:
> One other sort of mechanical test which I think can and should be
> applied to patches submitted to the last CF is that if *at the start
> of the CF* the patch doesn't apply, compile, pass regression tests,
> and demonstrably provide the functionality claimed for the patch, it
> should not be a candidate for inclusion in the release.
I would not be in favor of inflexible application of such a rule.
For instance, if a patch had gotten broken by a conflict with some
other patch applied the day before the CF starts, it would be unfair
to not give the patch author a reasonable amount of time to rebase.
And such conflicts occurring after the CF starts are hardly unusual
either.
> A patch on
> which the author is continuing to work even in the absence of review
> should be considered a WIP "want feedback" submission; it should not
> be allowed to constitute a "placeholder" for inclusion in the
> release. It's one thing if review turns up corner case bugs missed
> by the author; it's quite another if there is a month or two of
> solid development left to be done. The CF period is not the time for
> "now I'll get serious about wrapping this up."
Agreed here, though. Chris Browne mentioned upthread that we really
need a somewhat different process for WIP patches as opposed to those
that are thought to be committable or nearly so. I don't know if we
should institute his idea of a separate series of "HackFest" events,
but at the very least we should try harder to draw a distinction between
WIP and finished patches. They need different sorts of reviewing.
regards, tom lane
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