| From: | Bryan Green <dbryan(dot)green(at)gmail(dot)com> |
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| To: | Jelte Fennema-Nio <postgres(at)jeltef(dot)nl>, Thomas Munro <thomas(dot)munro(at)gmail(dot)com> |
| Cc: | Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka(at)iki(dot)fi>, pgsql-hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Kyotaro Horiguchi <horikyota(dot)ntt(at)gmail(dot)com> |
| Subject: | Re: Can we get rid of TerminateThread() in pg_dump? |
| Date: | 2026-07-04 15:24:24 |
| Message-ID: | 0d9c391f-5014-48f5-a680-45d7cfabe8a8@gmail.com |
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On 7/4/2026 6:15 AM, Jelte Fennema-Nio wrote:
> On Sat, 4 Jul 2026 at 02:51, Thomas Munro <thomas(dot)munro(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>> We don't actually care about the threads
>> themselves, and it doesn't seem that great if we have to introduce an
>> IPC ping-pong of some kind with each thread.
>
> Agreed. But I do agree with Heikki that swapping out stderr seems pretty
> hacky. At the very least because now the main thread cannot write to
> stderr either anymore (which is why you removed the "terminated by user"
> write I guess).
One correction from running it on Windows -- the "terminated by user"
line still prints. Thomas moved that write ahead of the dup2(), so it
goes out before stderr is redirected.
>
> How about instead we do something like the attached?
>
> To be clear, I do think we should stop using TerminateThread because I
> wanna replace PQcancel there with PQcancelBlocking[1] PQcancelBlocking
> does a whole TLS handshake, which is almost certainly taking some locks.
>
> Note that the way to achieve that I moved the Ctrl+C handler to a
> dedicated thread on Unix too, so it starts behaving the same as Windows
> in that respect. I think combined with you changing pg_dump to use
> worker *threads* on Unix too, we would then get pretty much identical
> behaviour across OSes for pg_dump.
>
> P.S. I now realize that anything involving the (already existing)
> CancelRequested flag is actually not actually safe/correct on Windows,
> because it's not using read nor written using atomic operations while
> the consoleHandler runs on its own thread. Would be good to fix that too
> I guess, but it seems that for now it has worked in practice at least.
>
> [1]: https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/flat/
> DJPAH0WPJV3K.1PYZ8P0QXZVMX%40jeltef.nl#5642e337a4e4d04b21c66e089484f80d
>
I ran v2 (both patches) on Windows: parallel restore, -j4, into a dump
with PK + secondary indexes so there is a CREATE INDEX phase to
interrupt. I then ^C in the middle of the index build. The workers
canceled cleanly (no orphaned backends, process exits, no hang. No
"query failed" spam. Your guard swallows them.
I don't know whether this is worth restructuring the code for, but at -v
you will get (as an example)
pg_restore: while PROCESSING TOC:
pg_restore: from TOC entry NNNN; ... INDEX t1_v_idx postgres
Those context lines sit above is_cancel_in_progress() check in
warn_or_exit_horribly... so the preamble does not get suppressed.
The die_on_query_failure is unguarded, it might spam if a ^C happens to
land for metadata/SET queries. I did not test that.
I may roll your patches onto my branch to test with the multi-threaded
queue.
--
Bryan Green
EDB: https://www.enterprisedb.com
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