Re: remove more archiving overhead

From: David Steele <david(at)pgmasters(dot)net>
To: Noah Misch <noah(at)leadboat(dot)com>, Peter Eisentraut <peter(dot)eisentraut(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>
Cc: Nathan Bossart <nathandbossart(at)gmail(dot)com>, Kyotaro Horiguchi <horikyota(dot)ntt(at)gmail(dot)com>, robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com, masao(dot)fujii(at)oss(dot)nttdata(dot)com, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: remove more archiving overhead
Date: 2022-09-19 14:56:35
Message-ID: 02051aee-2ba1-3dd0-e162-8b2e8db79022@pgmasters.net
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On 9/19/22 07:39, Noah Misch wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 19, 2022 at 06:08:29AM -0400, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
>> On 18.09.22 09:13, Noah Misch wrote:
>>>>> This documentation change only covers archive_library. How are users of
>>>>> archive_command supposed to handle this?
>>>>
>>>> I believe users of archive_command need to do something similar to what is
>>>> described here. However, it might be more reasonable to expect
>>>> archive_command users to simply return false when there is a pre-existing
>>>> file, as the deleted text notes. IIRC that is why I added that sentence
>>>> originally.
>>>
>>> What makes the answer for archive_command diverge from the answer for
>>> archive_library?
>>
>> I suspect what we are really trying to say here is
>>
>> ===
>> Archiving setups (using either archive_command or archive_library) should be
>> prepared for the rare case that an identical archive file is being archived
>> a second time. In such a case, they should compare that the source and the
>> target file are identical and proceed without error if so.
>>
>> In some cases, it is difficult or impossible to configure archive_command or
>> archive_library to do this. In such cases, the archiving command or library
>> should error like in the case for any pre-existing target file, and
>> operators need to be prepared to resolve such cases manually.
>> ===
>>
>> Is that correct?
>
> I wanted it to stop saying anything like the second paragraph, hence commit
> d263ced. Implementing a proper archiving setup is not especially difficult,
> and inviting the operator to work around a wrong implementation invites
> damaging mistakes under time pressure.

I would also not want to state that duplicate WAL is rare. In practice
it is pretty common when things are going wrong. Also, implying it is
rare might lead a user to decide they don't need to worry about it.

Regards,
-David

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