Re: Select for update, locks and transaction levels

From: "NTPT" <ntpt(at)centrum(dot)cz>
To: "Keary Suska" <hierophant(at)pcisys(dot)net>, "Postgres General" <pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Select for update, locks and transaction levels
Date: 2004-06-05 17:32:05
Message-ID: 002801c44b23$08eaa330$8e42b13e@wbp1
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Maybe filesystem fragmenttion is a problem ??

They told that fragmentation on multiuser system is not a problem (for
example on ext2 filesystem), because many users/ many tasks shared hdd IO
subsytem and there is not benefit for having disk low fragmented

but......

In my situation I use postgresql, PHP as apache module. I make a backup and
run e2fs defragmentation program on related partitions (ie /home and /var/ ,
where php files and database cluster lives )

Result ? About 40% (!) performance boost...

----- Original Message -----
From: "Keary Suska" <hierophant(at)pcisys(dot)net>
To: "Postgres General" <pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 8:52 PM
Subject: Re: [GENERAL] Select for update, locks and transaction levels

> on 2/16/04 10:51 AM, nick(dot)barr(at)webbased(dot)co(dot)uk purportedly said:
>
> > I am trying to gather stats about how many times a resource in our web
> > app is viewed, i.e. just a COUNT. There are potentially millions of
> > resources within the system.
> >
> > I thought of two methods:
> >
> > 1. An extra column in the resource table which contains a count.
>
> Not a good idea if you expect a high concurrency rate--you will create a
> superfluous bottleneck in your app.
>
> > 2. A separate table that contains a count using an algorithm similar
> > to the method presented here:
> >
> > http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-performance/2004-01/msg00059.php
> >
> > a. Each time a resource is viewed a new row is inserted with a count
> > of 1.
> > b. Each time the view count is needed, rows from the table are SUMmed
> > together.
> > c. A compression script runs regularly to group and sum the rows
> > together.
>
> I am assuming that you are concerned about storage size, which is why you
> want to "compress". You are probably better off (both by performance and
> storage) with something like the following approach:
>
> CREATE TABLE view_res (
> res_id int8,
> stamp timestamp
> ) WITHOUT OIDS;
>
> CREATE TABLE view_res_arch (
> res_id int8,
> cycle date,
> hits int8
> );
>
> By using a timestamp instead of count you can archive using a date/time
> range and avoid any concurrency/locking issues:
>
> INSERT INTO view_res_arch (res_id, cycle, hits)
> SELECT res_id, '2003-12-31', COUNT(res_id) FROM view_res
> WHERE stamp >= '2003-12-01' AND stamp <= '2003-12-31 23:59:59'
> GROUP BY res_id;
>
> then:
>
> DELETE FROM view_res
> WHERE stamp >= '2003-12-01' AND stamp <= '2003-12-31 23:59:59'
>
> With this kind of approach you have historicity and extensibility, so you
> could, for example, show historical trends with only minor modifications.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Keary Suska
> Esoteritech, Inc.
> "Leveraging Open Source for a better Internet"
>
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