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Re: Release Candidate of the PostgreSQL Europe association statutes

From: Oleg Bartunov <oleg(at)sai(dot)msu(dot)su>
To: Dave Page <dpage(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Cc: gabriele(dot)bartolini(at)gmail(dot)com, "Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>, damien(at)dalibo(dot)info, pgeu-general(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Release Candidate of the PostgreSQL Europe association statutes
Date: 2008-01-14 09:25:40
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On Sun, 13 Jan 2008, Dave Page wrote:

> Ciao Gabriele
> On 13/01/2008, Gabriele Bartolini <gabriele(dot)bartolini(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>> That's the case, for instance, of the Italian PostgreSQL Users Group as
>> well. We have just one typology of members, standard members, and the
>> annual fee is 25 euro. Running a non-profit organisation has some costs,
>> and members accept it.
> I think maybe we have some miscommunication between us here. My
> understanding of what we all agreed in Prato was that PG-EU would be
> an 'umbrella' organisation, supporting the regional user groups.

What's about those who don't have regional organization ?

> In that scenario, the only 'members' of PG-EU would be the regional
> groups themselves, and the staff/volunteers running it.
> Normal users would join their regional group, such as PostgreSQLFr or
> the Italian PUG, and pay the appropriate membership.
> Otherwise, many users will only join one or the other which would make
> PG-EU and the regional groups competitors with each other.
> For example, if PG-EU operated as a user group, why would I bother
> joining it instead of the UK User Group which we're just trying to
> setup? Or, should we just not bother with the UK group?
> In the scenario I thought we'd agreed, the UK user group would take
> membership from users and use some of that to pay for it's membership
> in PG-EU. In return, PG-EU would provide legal status and banking
> facilities, and as well as providing access to standardised flyers and
> other materials, as well as t-shirts and fluffy elephants etc, bulk
> purchased for the benefit of all member organisations.
> Regards Dave
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