Re: Introduce a new view for checkpointer related stats

From: Bharath Rupireddy <bharath(dot)rupireddyforpostgres(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de>
Cc: "Drouvot, Bertrand" <bertranddrouvot(dot)pg(at)gmail(dot)com>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>
Subject: Re: Introduce a new view for checkpointer related stats
Date: 2022-11-28 10:38:18
Message-ID: CALj2ACUjEvPQYGJHmH2FrAj1gmvHskNrOeNUr7xnwjtkYVZvEQ@mail.gmail.com
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On Sat, Nov 26, 2022 at 4:32 AM Andres Freund <andres(at)anarazel(dot)de> wrote:
>

Thanks Andres for reviewing.

> > May I know what it means to deprecate pg_stat_bgwriter columns?
>
> Add a note to the docs saying that the columns will be removed.

Done.

> > Are
> > you suggesting to add deprecation warnings to corresponding functions
> > pg_stat_get_bgwriter_buf_written_clean(),
> > pg_stat_get_bgwriter_maxwritten_clean(), pg_stat_get_buf_alloc() and
> > pg_stat_get_bgwriter_stat_reset_time() and in the docs?
>
> I'm thinking of the checkpoint related columns in pg_stat_bgwriter.

Added note in the docs alongside each deprecated pg_stat_bgwriter's
checkpoint related column.

> If we move, rather than duplicate, the pg_stat_bgwriter columns to
> pg_stat_checkpointer, everyone will have to update their monitoring scripts
> when upgrading and will need to add version dependency if they monitor
> multiple versions. If we instead keep the duplicated columns in
> pg_stat_bgwriter for 5 years, users can reloy on pg_stat_checkpointer in all
> supported versions.

Agree. However, it's a bit difficult to keep track of deprecated
things and come back after 5 years to clean them up unless "some"
postgres hacker/developer/user notices it again. Perhaps, adding a
separate section, say 'Deprecated and To-Be-Removed, in
https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Main_Page is a good idea.

> To be clear, it isn't a very heavy burden for users to make these
> adjustments. But if it only costs us a few lines to keep the old columns for a
> bit, that seems worth it.

Yes.

I'm attaching the v3 patch for further review.

--
Bharath Rupireddy
PostgreSQL Contributors Team
RDS Open Source Databases
Amazon Web Services: https://aws.amazon.com

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v3-0001-Introduce-a-new-view-for-checkpointer-related-sta.patch application/x-patch 24.9 KB

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