| From: | Manni Wood <manni(dot)wood(at)enterprisedb(dot)com> |
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| To: | Jim Jones <jim(dot)jones(at)uni-muenster(dot)de> |
| Cc: | pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org |
| Subject: | Re: [PATCH] Add pg_get_tablespace_ddl() function to reconstruct CREATE TABLESPACE statement |
| Date: | 2025-11-03 23:49:23 |
| Message-ID: | CAKWEB6r+NG4shZNoags+gjcPRaCDMaTVEEpKdbqvX+WT8n45_A@mail.gmail.com |
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On Fri, Oct 31, 2025 at 10:36 AM Jim Jones <jim(dot)jones(at)uni-muenster(dot)de>
wrote:
> Hi Manni,
>
> Thanks for the patch!
>
> On 29/10/2025 02:23, Manni Wood wrote:
> > This patch creates a function pg_get_tablespace_ddl, designed to
> > retrieve the full DDL statement for a tablespace. Users can obtain the
> > DDL by providing the tablespace name, like so:
> >
> > SELECT pg_get_tablespace_ddl('regress_owner_tblsp');
> > pg_get_tablespace_ddl
> >
> >
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > CREATE TABLESPACE regress_owner_tblsp OWNER regress_user LOCATION
> > '' WITH (random_page_cost = 3);
>
>
> Here my first comments regarding usability:
>
> == quoted identifier ==
>
> Tablespace names containing quoted identifiers cannot be parsed:
>
> postgres=# CREATE TABLESPACE "My TS" LOCATION '/tmp/ts';
> CREATE TABLESPACE
> postgres=# SELECT pg_get_tablespace_ddl('"My TS"');
> ERROR: tablespace ""My TS"" does not exist
>
> The following works, but I guess it shouldn't:
>
> postgres=# SELECT pg_get_tablespace_ddl('My TS');
> pg_get_tablespace_ddl
> -----------------------------------------------
> CREATE TABLESPACE "My TS" LOCATION '/tmp/ts';
> (1 row)
>
> The same applies for unicode characters:
>
> postgres=# CREATE TABLESPACE "🐘" LOCATION '/tmp/ts';
> CREATE TABLESPACE
> postgres=# SELECT pg_get_tablespace_ddl('"🐘"');
> ERROR: tablespace ""🐘"" does not exist
> postgres=# SELECT pg_get_tablespace_ddl('🐘');
> pg_get_tablespace_ddl
> --------------------------------------------
> CREATE TABLESPACE "🐘" LOCATION '/tmp/ts';
> (1 row)
>
>
> == option precision ==
>
> There is a precision loss in the options:
>
> postgres=# CREATE TABLESPACE ts OWNER u1 LOCATION '/tmp/ts' WITH
> (seq_page_cost = 1.12345678910, random_page_cost = 1.12345678910,
> effective_io_concurrency = 17, maintenance_io_concurrency = 18);
> CREATE TABLESPACE
> postgres=# SELECT pg_get_tablespace_ddl('ts');
>
> pg_get_tablespace_ddl
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ---------------------------------
> CREATE TABLESPACE ts OWNER u1 LOCATION '/tmp/ts' WITH (random_page_cost
> = 1.12346, seq_page_cost = 1.12346, effective_io_concurrency = 17, m
> aintenance_io_concurrency = 18);
> (1 row)
>
> \db shows it as in the CREATE TABLESPACE statement:
>
> postgres=# \db+ ts
>
> List of tablespaces
> Name | Owner | Location | Access privileges |
> Options
> | Size | Description
>
> ------+-------+----------+-------------------+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -------------------------+---------+-------------
> ts | u1 | /tmp/ts | |
>
> {seq_page_cost=1.12345678910,random_page_cost=1.12345678910,effective_io_concurrency=17,mainte
> nance_io_concurrency=18} | 0 bytes |
> (1 row)
>
>
> == permissions ==
>
> Is it supposed to be visible to all users?
>
> postgres=# CREATE USER u1;
> CREATE ROLE
> postgres=# CREATE TABLESPACE ts LOCATION '/tmp/ts';
> CREATE TABLESPACE
> postgres=# SET ROLE u1;
> SET
> postgres=> SELECT pg_get_tablespace_ddl('ts');
> pg_get_tablespace_ddl
> ----------------------------------------------------
> CREATE TABLESPACE ts OWNER jim LOCATION '/tmp/ts';
> (1 row)
>
> Note that \db does not allow it:
>
> postgres=> SELECT CURRENT_USER;
> current_user
> --------------
> u1
> (1 row)
>
> postgres=> \db+ ts
> ERROR: permission denied for tablespace ts
>
>
> Best, Jim
>
>
> Hi, Jim
Thanks for reviewing my very first patch!
== quoted identifier ==
I see that Postgres already has the SQL function has_tablespace_privilege
that behaves the same way as this patch's pg_get_tablespace_ddl.
# create tablespace "My TS" location '/tmp/has_space';
CREATE TABLESPACE
# select has_tablespace_privilege('My TS', 'create'); rollback;
┌──────────────────────────┐
│ has_tablespace_privilege │
├──────────────────────────┤
│ t │
└──────────────────────────┘
(1 row)
# select has_tablespace_privilege('"My TS"', 'create'); rollback;
ERROR: 42704: tablespace ""My TS"" does not exist
# create tablespace "🐘" location '/tmp/has_elephant';
CREATE TABLESPACE
# select has_tablespace_privilege('🐘', 'create'); rollback;
┌──────────────────────────┐
│ has_tablespace_privilege │
├──────────────────────────┤
│ t │
└──────────────────────────┘
(1 row)
# select has_tablespace_privilege('"🐘"', 'create'); rollback;
ERROR: 42704: tablespace ""🐘"" does not exist
Does the existence of this behavior in an existing function make the same
behavior less surprising for this patch's function?
== option precision ==
Thanks for pointing this out.
I have attached a v2 of the patch that just uses the original text the user
entered for the spcoptions.
This is much better, and it made the code smaller.
I have added "1.1234567890" to one of the tests to show that this works.
== permissions ==
I'm not sure what to think of this. psql's "\db+" does not let me show the
tablespace.
But if, as user 'u1', I select from pg_tablespace directly, I have the
permissions to do so:
postgres> select current_user; rollback;
┌──────────────┐
│ current_user │
├──────────────┤
│ u1 │
└──────────────┘
(1 row)
postgres> select * from pg_catalog.pg_tablespace; rollback;
┌───────┬────────────┬──────────┬────────┬────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐
│ oid │ spcname │ spcowner │ spcacl │
spcoptions
│
├───────┼────────────┼──────────┼────────┼────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┤
│ 1663 │ pg_default │ 10 │ [NULL] │ [NULL]
│
│ 1664 │ pg_global │ 10 │ [NULL] │ [NULL]
│
│ 19971 │ ts │ 10 │ [NULL] │
{seq_page_cost=1.12345678910,random_page_cost=1.12345678910,effective_io_concurrency=17,maintenance_io_concurrency=18}
│
└───────┴────────────┴──────────┴────────┴────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘
(3 rows)
So if the information is obtainable by selecting from
pg_catalog.pg_tablespace, it seems defensible to make the same data
available via pg_get_tablespace_ddl.
Thoughts?
Thanks again for reviewing my patch,
-Manni
| Attachment | Content-Type | Size |
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| v2-0001-Adds-pg_get_tablespace_ddl-function.patch | text/x-patch | 13.2 KB |
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