Re: oat_post_create expected behavior

From: Mary Xu <yxu2162(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Jeff Davis <pgsql(at)j-davis(dot)com>
Cc: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: oat_post_create expected behavior
Date: 2022-08-02 20:30:52
Message-ID: CAHoZxqvVj-MZw8xDXTso4YF7VyOsk254nhdUw5rWTiF4i-V4SA@mail.gmail.com
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> Right, same thing I'm saying. I also think we should discourage
> people from doing cowboy CCIs inside their OAT hooks, because that
> makes the testability problem even worse. Maybe that means we
> need to uniformly move the CREATE hooks to after a system-provided
> CCI, but I've not thought hard about the implications of that.

I like this approach, however, I am relatively new to the PG scene and
am not sure how or what I should look into in terms of the
implications that Tom mentioned. Are there any tips? What should be
the next course of action here? I could update my patch to always call
CCI before the create hooks.

Thanks,

Mary Xu

On Fri, Jul 1, 2022 at 11:12 AM Jeff Davis <pgsql(at)j-davis(dot)com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, 2022-06-06 at 17:11 -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> > Right, same thing I'm saying. I also think we should discourage
> > people from doing cowboy CCIs inside their OAT hooks, because that
> > makes the testability problem even worse. Maybe that means we
> > need to uniformly move the CREATE hooks to after a system-provided
> > CCI, but I've not thought hard about the implications of that.
>
> Uniformly moving the post-create hooks after CCI might not be as
> convenient as I thought at first. Many extensions using post-create
> hooks will also want to use post-alter hooks, and it would be difficult
> to reuse extension code between those two hooks. It's probably better
> to just always specify the snapshot unless you're sure you won't need a
> post-alter hook.
>
> It would be nice if it was easier to enforce that these hooks do the
> right thing, though.
>
> Regards,
> Jeff Davis
>
>

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