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Re: [REVIEW] prepare plans of embedded sql on function start

From: Pavel Stehule <pavel(dot)stehule(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: Andy Colson <andy(at)squeakycode(dot)net>, pgsql-hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: [REVIEW] prepare plans of embedded sql on function start
Date: 2011-09-11 04:56:16
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2011/9/11 Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>:
> Andy Colson <andy(at)squeakycode(dot)net> writes:
>> [ Andy's dubious about adding plpgsql syntax to control this feature ]
> Yeah, that bothers me a lot too.

I like to discussion about syntax - a name "prepare_plans" and
following list is just one (for me - practical) shot. I am sure so
preparing all plans on function start is one functionality what we
want - because it can to do early warnings when some in environments
is not well. And if I remember well, there was one tool that does it
too, but a goal was different - they wanted a faster function
execution in production usage - without "slower" first call. The
overhead of check walker is minimal.

>> One option I'd thought about, was to extended ANALYZE to support functions.
> That's actually quite a good idea, not least because the extra checking
> happens only when you ask for it and not every time the function is
> loaded into a new session.
> I'm not that happy with overloading the ANALYZE keyword to mean this
> (especially not since there is already meaning attached to the syntax
> "ANALYZE x(y)").  But we could certainly use some other name --- I'm
> inclined to suggest CHECK:
>        CHECK FUNCTION function_name(arglist);

I proposed a stored procedure "check_function(name, arglist)", but
CHECK FUNCTION is ok for me too. Is easy implement it. Maybe there is
issue - "CHECK" will be a keyword :(

> People would want some sort of wild card capability; at the very least
> "check all plpgsql functions owned by me".  Not sure what that ought
> to look like syntactically.

I don't think. Now (when I looking around me) a owner of functions are
some abstract role. It is terrible to maintain a system where database
objects has a different roles. I can expect a request for check all
functions from some schema or all functions related to some PL.

> It might also be a good idea to make sure there's room in the syntax to
> specify different checking options.  We already would have reason to
> want "just do the existing style of validation check" versus this more
> intensive check.  And it's not hard to foresee other sorts of checking
> in future.


There is possible check of RAISE statement params and maybe similar.

> Also, this would force us to invent PL-independent infrastructure for
> doing the checking.  I'm envisioning an additional argument to the
> existing PL validator function that tells it what checking options to
> use.


yup. But there is query - need we a new special statement?

cannot we enhance a CREATE OR REPLACE FUNCTION statement? Cannot we
enhance of syntax or cannot we enhance of behave.

or has sense to have two statements CREATE FUNCTION and CHECK
FUNCTION? I see a sense. CHECK FUNCTION should be ??parametrized?? One
idea - CHECK FUNCTION can have a own independent hooks on PL hooks.


* We want to deep check plans when function is started

* I like a CHECK FUNCTION statement - see a possibilities - but I am
not sure if PL developers will like it too. It means start two
statements - it just idea - what about CREATE OR REPLACE FUNCTION
optionally to call CHECK statement

>                        regards, tom lane

there is still task - what with trigger's functions


Pavel Stehule

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