| From: | Amul Sul <sulamul(at)gmail(dot)com> |
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| To: | Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> |
| Cc: | Chao Li <li(dot)evan(dot)chao(at)gmail(dot)com>, Jakub Wartak <jakub(dot)wartak(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org> |
| Subject: | Re: pg_waldump: support decoding of WAL inside tarfile |
| Date: | 2026-02-10 09:36:12 |
| Message-ID: | CAAJ_b95H+=D2P_fLAbePCF++FAXO0fsJnxFr5NKVe4at=ga6WA@mail.gmail.com |
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On Wed, Feb 4, 2026 at 6:39 PM Amul Sul <sulamul(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jan 28, 2026 at 2:41 AM Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 27, 2026 at 7:07 AM Amul Sul <sulamul(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> > > In the attached version, I am using the WAL segment name as the hash
> > > key, which is much more straightforward. I have rewritten
> > > read_archive_wal_page(), and it looks much cleaner than before. The
> > > logic to discard irrelevant WAL files is still within
> > > get_archive_wal_entry. I added an explanation for setting cur_wal to
> > > NULL, which is now handled in the separate function I mentioned
> > > previously.
> > >
> > > Kindly have a look at the attached version; let me know if you are
> > > still not happy with the current approach for filtering/discarding
> > > irrelevant WAL segments. It isn't much different from the previous
> > > version, but I have tried to keep it in a separate routine for better
> > > code readability, with comments to make it easier to understand. I
> > > also added a comment for ArchivedWALFile.
> >
> > I feel like the division of labor between get_archive_wal_entry() and
> > read_archive_wal_page() is odd. I noticed this in the last version,
> > too, and it still seems to be the case. get_archive_wal_entry() first
> > calls ArchivedWAL_lookup(). If that finds an entry, it just returns.
> > If it doesn't, it loops until an entry for the requested file shows up
> > and then returns it. Then control returns to read_archive_wal_page()
> > which loops some more until we have all the data we need for the
> > requested file. But it seems odd to me to have two separate loops
> > here. I think that the first loop is going to call read_archive_file()
> > until we find the beginning of the file that we care about and then
> > the second one is going to call read_archive_file() some more until we
> > have read enough of it to satisfy the request. It feels odd to me to
> > do it that way, as if we told somebody to first wait until 9 o'clock
> > and then wait another 30 minutes, instead of just telling them to wait
> > until 9:30. I realize it's not quite the same thing, because apart
> > from calling read_archive_file(), the two loops do different things,
> > but I still think it looks odd.
> >
> > + /*
> > + * Ignore if the timeline is different or the current segment is not
> > + * the desired one.
> > + */
> > + XLogFromFileName(entry->fname, &curSegTimeline, &curSegNo, WalSegSz);
> > + if (privateInfo->timeline != curSegTimeline ||
> > + privateInfo->startSegNo > curSegNo ||
> > + privateInfo->endSegNo < curSegNo ||
> > + segno > curSegNo)
> > + {
> > + free_archive_wal_entry(entry->fname, privateInfo);
> > + continue;
> > + }
> >
> > The comment doesn't match the code. If it did, the test would be
> > (privateInfo->timeline != curSegTimeline || segno != curSegno). But
> > instead the segno test is > rather than !=, and the checks against
> > startSegNo and endSegNo aren't explained at all. I think I understand
> > why the segno test uses > rather than !=, but it's the point of the
> > comment to explain things like that, rather than leaving the reader to
> > guess. And I don't know why we also need to test startSegNo and
> > endSegNo.
> >
> > I also wonder what the point is of doing XLogFromFileName() on the
> > fname provided by the caller and then again on entry->fname. Couldn't
> > you just compare the strings?
> >
> > Again, the division of labor is really odd here. It's the job of
> > astreamer_waldump_content() to skip things that aren't WAL files at
> > all, but it's the job of get_archive_wal_entry() to skip things that
> > are WAL files but not the one we want. I disagree with putting those
> > checks in completely separate parts of the code.
> >
>
> Keeping the timeline and segment start-end range checks inside the
> archive streamer creates a circular dependency that cannot be resolved
> without a 'dirty hack'. We must read the first available WAL file page
> to determine the wal_segment_size before it can calculate the target
> segment range. Moving the checks inside the streamer would make it
> impossible to process that initial file, as the necessary filtering
> parameters -- would still be unknown which would need to be skipped
> for the first read somehow. What if later we realized that the first
> WAL file which was allowed to be streamed by skipping that check is
> irrelevant and doesn't fall under the start-end segment range?
>
Please have a look at the attached version, specifically patch 0005.
In astreamer_waldump_content(), I have moved the WAL file filtration
check from get_archive_wal_entry(). This check will be skipped during
the initial read in init_archive_reader(), which instead performs it
explicitly once it determines the WAL segment size and the start/end
segments.
To access the WAL segment size inside astreamer_waldump_content(), I
have moved the WAL segment size variable into the XLogDumpPrivate
structure in the separate 0004 patch.
Regards,
Amul
| Attachment | Content-Type | Size |
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| v12-0001-Refactor-pg_waldump-Move-some-declarations-to-ne.patch | application/x-patch | 2.2 KB |
| v12-0002-Refactor-pg_waldump-Separate-logic-used-to-calcu.patch | application/x-patch | 2.4 KB |
| v12-0003-Refactor-pg_waldump-Restructure-TAP-tests.patch | application/x-patch | 5.6 KB |
| v12-0004-Refactor-pg_waldump-Move-WAL-segment-size-to-XLo.patch | application/x-patch | 5.1 KB |
| v12-0005-pg_waldump-Add-support-for-archived-WAL-decoding.patch | application/x-patch | 42.3 KB |
| v12-0006-pg_waldump-Remove-the-restriction-on-the-order-o.patch | application/x-patch | 12.8 KB |
| v12-0007-pg_verifybackup-Delay-default-WAL-directory-prep.patch | application/x-patch | 1.7 KB |
| v12-0008-pg_verifybackup-Rename-the-wal-directory-switch-.patch | application/x-patch | 5.9 KB |
| v12-0009-pg_verifybackup-enabled-WAL-parsing-for-tar-form.patch | application/x-patch | 9.9 KB |
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