Re: Impact of checkpointer during pg_upgrade

From: Amit Kapila <amit(dot)kapila16(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Michael Paquier <michael(at)paquier(dot)xyz>
Cc: "Zhijie Hou (Fujitsu)" <houzj(dot)fnst(at)fujitsu(dot)com>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org>, Sawada Masahiko <sawada(dot)mshk(at)gmail(dot)com>, Dilip Kumar <dilipbalaut(at)gmail(dot)com>, "Hayato Kuroda (Fujitsu)" <kuroda(dot)hayato(at)fujitsu(dot)com>, vignesh C <vignesh21(at)gmail(dot)com>, Peter Smith <smithpb2250(at)gmail(dot)com>
Subject: Re: Impact of checkpointer during pg_upgrade
Date: 2023-09-08 06:29:41
Message-ID: CAA4eK1+WBphnmvMpjrxceymzuoMuyV2_pMGaJq-zNODiJqAa7Q@mail.gmail.com
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On Fri, Sep 8, 2023 at 10:10 AM Michael Paquier <michael(at)paquier(dot)xyz> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Sep 08, 2023 at 09:14:59AM +0530, Amit Kapila wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 8, 2023 at 9:00 AM Zhijie Hou (Fujitsu)
> > <houzj(dot)fnst(at)fujitsu(dot)com> wrote:
> >>> I
> >>> mean that doing the latter is benefitial for the sake of any patch committed and
> >>> as a long-term method to rely on.
> >
> > What is your worry here? Are you worried that unknowingly in the
> > future we could add some other way to invalidate slots during upgrades
> > that we won't be able to detect?
>
> Exactly. A safety belt would not hurt, especially if the belt added
> is simple. The idea of a backend side elog(ERROR) with
> isBinaryUpgrade is tempting in the invalidation slot path.
>

I agree with doing something simple. So, to conclude, we agree on two
things in this thread (a) Use max_slot_wal_keep_size to -1 to start
postmaster for the old cluster during the upgrade; (b) Have an
elog(ERROR) to avoid invalidating slots during the upgrade.

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With Regards,
Amit Kapila.

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