Re: Replication references

From: Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org>
To: Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>
Cc: Guillaume Lelarge <guillaume(at)lelarge(dot)info>, Peter Geoghegan <peter(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, pgadmin-hackers <pgadmin-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Replication references
Date: 2011-06-26 17:52:31
Message-ID: BANLkTikqOLqOFC=eZKP9QvSoBQxkQJCZGg@mail.gmail.com
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On Sunday, June 26, 2011, Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net> wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 19:10, Guillaume Lelarge <guillaume(at)lelarge(dot)info> wrote:
>> On Thu, 2011-06-23 at 11:41 +0200, Magnus Hagander wrote:
>>> On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 00:07, Guillaume Lelarge <guillaume(at)lelarge(dot)info> wrote:
>>> > On Wed, 2011-06-22 at 18:10 +0200, Magnus Hagander wrote:
>>> >> On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 18:03, Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org> wrote:
>>> >> > On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net> wrote:
>>> >> >> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 23:45, Peter Geoghegan <peter(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> wrote:
>>> >> >>> On 20 June 2011 21:40, Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net> wrote:
>>> >> >>>> Hi!
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> I know we've  had some discussions around what to do with the Slony
>>> >> >>>> support.. But it's there now, and IIRC the deal was we keep it.
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> That was the deal. FWIW, I consider our Slony support to be less than
>>> >> >>> useless, in that it is basically a GUI analogue to writing a long
>>> >> >>> Slonik script full of apparently redundant entries.
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>> I would, however, suggest that we rename it to actually be "slony
>>> >> >>>> replication" rather than "replication". Or "Use slony" rather than
>>> >> >>>> "Use replication". Calling it "replication" without qualifying it
>>> >> >>>> causes confusion to many users (came across it with a client just
>>> >> >>>> today, and it's not the first time).
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> I realize we're fairly close to release - is this doable for 1.14, or
>>> >> >>>> will that fsck things up for translators?
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> +1
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> It isn't that hard to translate a few strings into all supported
>>> >> >>> languages. If a translator isn't available to translate those few
>>> >> >>> strings (and they'd have to not be answering any e-mail for that to be
>>> >> >>> the case, and it will take them less than 5 minutes), that's likely to
>>> >> >>> be in a language that isn't so widely spoken  - it certainly won't be
>>> >> >>> French or German. I'd be willing to live with a poor machine
>>> >> >>> translation for a little while for those languages. If someone
>>> >> >>> complains, the complaint is likely to be all we need to fix the
>>> >> >>> problem ourselves.
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> So, something like this. I went with calling the field inthe dialogs
>>> >> >> "Use Slony" rather than "Use Slony replication", simply because the
>>> >> >> second option is very long - much much longer than anything else
>>> >> >> there, leading to a lot of wasted space.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Comments?
>>> >> >
>>> >> > It should be "Slony Replication" for the menu and the collection
>>> >> > factory name, not "Slony replication". Otherwise it seems OK.
>>> >>
>>> >> Agreed. Actually I thought I had fixed that already :D
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> > I would like to hear from Guillaume before breaking the translations though.
>>> >>
>>> >> Yeah, I was planning to wait for his comment before committing anything.
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> > No problem with me. We have no updates to the translation yet, so that's
>>> > not an issue.
>>>
>>> Ok, applied.
>>>
>>
> I wasn't planning to - do we really want to change the name of a node
> in a minor release?

No, but weren't you trying to get it into 1.14?

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