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Re: Wiki clarification

From: Mike Ellsworth <younicycle(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Greg Smith <greg(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>
Cc: PostgreSQL WWW <pgsql-www(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Wiki clarification
Date: 2011-02-25 19:43:53
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On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 2:10 PM, Greg Smith <greg(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com> wrote:
> Mike Ellsworth wrote:
>> I'd appreciate some clarification on usage of the Wiki.
>> When it was first introduced, the usage guidelines were a bit vague -
>> and as I recall a statement was made (+ -)
>> by Josh Berkus that ~ as long as it had something to do with
>> PostgreSQL, it would be ok.
> There are two sets of policies here.  The one at
> suggests the Wiki is
> intended for "user-contributed PostgreSQL documentation", which your page
> didn't quite seem to be.  So by that one alone, it would be inappropriate.
>  The rest of the policies for the project are listed at
> Now, there really should be a "Wiki approval policy" for commercial content
> there.  What Josh told you may in fact be the ultimate policy here, and
> there is already some other material on the wiki that is in the same fuzzy
> area your page appears to be.  But the line here is not clearly documented
> yet to contributors or to site moderators.
>> Perhaps my expectations are a bit high, but I would think that level
>> would at least warrant the courtesy of an email before a wiki page was
>> deleted and locked.
> Not really deleted--cleared and locked.  Had it really been deleted I
> wouldn't have been able to restore the page to operation, which I just did:
> is back as you left it before.
> Sorry about blocking your content for a bit here, but I didn't have any idea
> who had put that info there.  It was locked until we figured out who did, or
> whoever it was identified themselves after seeing the page was unavailable.
>  In retrospect, I should have used the E-mail contact system on the wiki
> itself to contact you, and left a more clear suggestion on the cleared page
> itself as to what you should do.  I'll make sure that's incorporated into
> the recommend procedure for when we run into a page that may not follow
> project policies next time.  You are literally the first case like this
> that's happened--something commercial appeared and it wasn't obvious who
> posted it--so the right way to handle things hadn't been considered and
> documented yet.
> My apologies for the temporary outage here, and I would recommend you fill
> out your user profile at
> to
> make it clear who you are and how you can be reached so we don't have any
> confusion there in the future.
> As far as further working on that page, I would recommend waiting until you
> get a clear ruling here on the appropriateness of your page for the Wiki
> before spending any more time working on it.  I doubt the page needs to get
> deleted altogether such that you'll lose all of the time you put into it.
>  It may just need to be rewritten to be consistent with the goal of the
> wiki--user-oriented documentation related to PostgreSQL.  That's not really
> my decision to make though, just giving my personal opinion.
> --
> Greg Smith   2ndQuadrant US    greg(at)2ndQuadrant(dot)com   Baltimore, MD
> PostgreSQL Training, Services, and 24x7 Support


I enjoyed your book.

Mike Ellsworth

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