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Re: Is postgresql ca do the job for software deployed in ASP ou SaaS mode?

From: "Mikael Carneholm" <Mikael(dot)Carneholm(at)WirelessCar(dot)com>
To: "David Gagnon" <dgagnon(at)siunik(dot)com>
Cc: <pgsql-performance(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Is postgresql ca do the job for software deployed in ASP ou SaaS mode?
Date: 2006-07-04 13:05:42
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> For my application there is very little info I can share.  Maybe less
than 10 on 100 actually so I not sure it worth it ...

Ok, so 90% of the tables are being written to - this either means that
your application uses very little constants, or that it has access to
constans that are stored somewhere else (eg, a JMX Mbean that's
initialized from property files on application startup). Would it be too
much work to redesign the DB model to support more than one client? 

>I look into the HP DL385 and DL585 on HP site and they are price
>3000 and 15000$$ (base price).  Thats quite a difference?  So is the HP

>DL385 with 2 cpus will do the job ?

Yeah, there's quite a difference on the price tags between those two.
I'd vote for the DL385 since the sockets for the two extra CPU's won't
give you linear scalability per $ in the end. A single machine may be
cheaper to administrate, but if administration costs are
irrelevant/negligible I'd go for several 2-socket machines instead of
one 4-socket machine.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: pgsql-performance-owner(at)postgresql(dot)org
> [mailto:pgsql-performance-owner(at)postgresql(dot)org] On Behalf Of David
> Gagnon
> Sent: den 3 juli 2006 13:42
> To: pgsql-performance(at)postgresql(dot)org
> Subject: [PERFORM] Is postgresql ca do the job for software deployed
> ASP ou SaaS mode?
> Hi all,
>   I've been working on my personal project for 3.5 years now.  I
> developed an ERP system in web/java.  Now the people I will work with
> suggest to offers it in Saas mode.  Which means my customer will
> to my website and found they ERP software and data there.  It's not
> deployment I planned initially so if you can just validate some
> technicals points to be sure it's not crazy using Postgresl here and
> a big $$$ db to do the job.
> Typically I will have 1db per client and around 150 tables per db.  So
> since I hope I didn`t work all those year for nothing .. I expect to
> have bunch of clients witch means the same amount of db since I have 1
> db/client. 
> Can I hope having several hundred of db on 1 db server?  Like 250 dbs
> 250 client = 360 000 tables !!!
> So is there a limit for the number of db in the db server ?(this spec
> not on the website) What about the performance? Can I expect to have
> same performance? 
> Since I put everything on the web I do needs an High Availability
> infrastructure.  I looked into SlonyI and Mammoth to replicate the db
> but since SlonyI use triggers can I expect it to do the job?  Is
> is the only available solution?
> Last question and not the least  I'm reading this performance list for
> several years now and know suggestion about hardware to run postgresl
> discussed.  Since I wrote software there severals points about
> that I don`t understand.  Do you have any suggestion of platform to
> into my Saas configuration?  I do need the WISE one!  I'm pretty sure
> that if I was a big company I would be able throw bunch of $$$$ but
> not my case.  I'm pretty sure it exists out there some piece of
> that would do the job perfectly with a fair price.
> So far I did understand that Postgresql loves Opteron and I have
> into the dl145 series of HP.  I did understand that Dell Hardware it`s
> not reliable.  But it's still not clear what should be my requirement
> for memory, disk, nb cpu, cpu power, etc.
> I'm pretty sure it`s better to have more slower CPUs that having the
> latest Opteron available on the market, or more slower servers that
> having the fastest one...  am I right?  But agains what it`s the
> choice?
> Thanks you to share your knowledge on those point.  I do consider
> Postgresql is the Smart choice in my project since the beginning but
> before putting all the money (That I don`t have ..:-)) to buy some
> hardware I just want to be sure I'm not crazy!
> Thanks for your help I really appreciate it!!
> Best Regards
> /David
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