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Re: Question about ALTER TABLE DROP CONSTRAINT on 9.1 -- psql crashes

From: Craig Ringer <ringerc(at)ringerc(dot)id(dot)au>
To: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: Greg Williamson <gwilliamson39(at)yahoo(dot)com>, "pgsql-admin(at)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-admin(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Question about ALTER TABLE DROP CONSTRAINT on 9.1 -- psql crashes
Date: 2012-08-10 05:08:24
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On 08/10/2012 12:20 PM, Tom Lane wrote:
> Craig Ringer <ringerc(at)ringerc(dot)id(dot)au> writes:
>> On 08/10/2012 10:06 AM, Tom Lane wrote:
>>> That sure sounds like the source of your problem.  It might be sane if
>>> it killed only processes that *had been idle* for at least three
>>> seconds, but I'm not sure there is any easy way to determine that ...
>> wouldn't:
>> select * from pg_stat_activity
>> where current_query = '<IDLE> in transaction'
>> AND query_start < current_timestamp - INTERVAL '3 seconds';
>> do it?
> No, that would find sessions that were idle and whose last command
> started at least 3 seconds ago.  But it might have completed only
> microseconds ago.  The symptoms Greg is describing are consistent
> with this kill script running during a short interval between his
> index-build command and his COMMIT.

Eh. For some reason I thought query_start was updated whenever 
current_query was set, so it'd be updated when the session went idle. 
Nonesensical in retrospect.

Does this approach look sane? Note idlers and then reap them if they 
haven't started new queries next pass:

   procpid integer,
   query_start timestamptz,
   added timestamptz

-- Run every 20s or whatever to note idlers and when we noticed them
insert into reap (procpid,query_start,added)
select procpid, query_start, current_timestamp
from pg_stat_activity where current_query = '<IDLE> in transaction';

-- Clean out old entries and kill idlers
   DELETE FROM reap r2
   WHERE r2.added + INTERVAL '10 seconds' < current_timestamp
SELECT r.procpid, pg_terminate_backend(r.procpid)
FROM r INNER JOIN pg_stat_activity s
   ON (r.procpid = s.procpid AND r.query_start = s.query_start )
GROUP BY r.procpid;

ie "where we've noted more than 1 minute ago that a pid was idle, and 
query_start hasn't changed so no new query has been run, kill the backend".

Of course, there's race where the backend could be starting a new query 
even as you kill it for idleness, but that's true in any 
idle-in-transaction control scheme (other than having a true transaction 
timeout feature *within* the backend).

Craig Ringer

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