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Re: Memory Allocation

From: "Kevin Grittner" <Kevin(dot)Grittner(at)wicourts(dot)gov>
To: "Ryan Hansen" <ryan(dot)hansen(at)brightbuilders(dot)com>,"pgsql-performance(at)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-performance(at)postgresql(dot)org>,"Scott Carey" <scott(at)richrelevance(dot)com>
Subject: Re: Memory Allocation
Date: 2008-11-28 22:28:42
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I'm hoping that through compare/contrast we might help someone start
closer to their own best values....
>>> Scott Carey <scott(at)richrelevance(dot)com> wrote: 
> Tests with writes can trigger it earlier if combined with bad
> settings.
We've never, ever modified dirty_buffers settings from defaults.
> The root of the problem is that the Linux paging algorithm estimates
> I/O for file read access is as costly as I/O for paging.  A
> assumption for a desktop, a ridiculously false assumption for a large

> database with high capacity DB file I/O and a much lower capability
> file.
Our swap file is not on lower speed drives.
> If you do have enough other applications that are idle that take up
RAM that 
> should be pushed out to disk from time to time (perhaps your programs
> are doing the bulk loading?) a higher value is useful.
Bulk loading was ssh cat | psql.
> The more RAM you have and the larger your postgres memory usage, the
> the swappiness value should be.
I think the test environment had 8 GB RAM with 256 MB in
shared_buffers.  For the conversion we had high work_mem and
maintenance_work_mem settings, and we turned fsync off, along with a
few other settings we would never using during production.
> I currently use a value of 1, on a 32GB machine, and about 600MB of
> gets paged out normally, 1400MB under heavy load.
Outside of bulk load, we've rarely seen anything swap, even under
> ***For a bulk load database, one is optimizing for _writes_ and extra
> cache doesn't help writes like it does reads.***
I'm thinking that it likely helps when indexing tables for which data
has recently been loaded.  It also might help minimize head movement
and/or avoid the initial disk hit for a page which subsequently get
hint bits set .
> Like all of these settings, tune to your application and test.
We sure seem to agree on that.

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