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Re: PostgreSQL Europe statutes : recap

From: Cédric Villemain <cedric(dot)villemain(at)dalibo(dot)com>
To: damien(at)dalibo(dot)info
Cc: pgeu-general(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: PostgreSQL Europe statutes : recap
Date: 2008-01-22 17:19:52
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damien clochard a écrit :
> hello !
> As you have notice, messages about the statutes for the upcoming association 
> have suddenly stopped a few days ago. My guess is that's not because of lack 
> of interest. i feel that this whole thread was very difficult to follow, so i 
> took the 60 e-mails and tried to write a sum-up.
> check-it out :
> i tried to respect everyone's thoughts (using quotes as mush as possible) in 
> order to give a proper view of the issues we have to solve. however i may 
> have made mistakes or forgot some ideas. If you notice any of that the best 
> thing to do is to directly edit the wiki page. If you can't, please send me 
> your modifications in a private e-mail.
> i have identified 5 issues and several possible solutions for every issue : 
> 1- Membership fee ?
>       a : Keep the statutes as they are
>       b : No membership fee for people
>       c : Optional membership fee for people

I vote 1-c

> 2- Membership ?
>      a : Keep the statutes as they are
>      b : Automatic membership for users of local groups
>      c : Optional membership for users of local groups
I vote 2-c

> 3- Quorum ?
>     a : Keep the statutes as they are
>     b : Lower the quorum
>     c : Drop the quorum
> 4- Takeover protection ?
>     a : Keep statutes as they are
>     b : Add more criterium for the member to satisfy

I've already sent something for that, I like the folowing option:
 to the susbcriber to be accepted, it need to be already member of a 
local group (localgroup that need to be recognize by pg-eu, to have same 
objectives), OR it need to be accepted by the board or a comitee of pg-eu.

In both case subscriber must be a real  human to be "active member".

It is only an idea, and it need to be rewrite... 

> 5- Companies : sponsors or members ?
>     a : Keep the statutes as they are
>     b : Companies are sponsors   

Companies can not be member with the rights to vote and decide (so they 
can not be 'active member' but 'benefactor members'). In that case I am 
not aware if we can put the fee at a minimum, or if it is welcome ? (see 
> I'm not sure what is the best way to continue on these subjects. Maybe 
> creating a separate thread for each issue, or proposing a poll, or some kind 
> of wiki-based work.

It seems that we stick at outlook usage.

> Either way we have to go forward on these 5 issues
> Regards,

Cédric Villemain
Administrateur de Base de Données
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