Re: Alternatives to Dell?

>
>Go the IBM website, try to find a comparative x86 system and
>spec it out. The list pricing is in the $12-16K range. Yes, I know
>I could get a good discount if I developed a relationship with
>an IBM reseller here..and perhaps the end pricing would be
>in the $10-12K range....but the Dell way just seems alot more honest
>to me, and reasonable. The IBM gear doesn't seem that much better.
>
>
It is my experience that IBM will get within 5% of Dell if you
provide IBM with a written quote from Dell.

Sincerely,

Joshua D. Drake

>And while I have concerns about some of the Dell
>hardware, none of the issues have really caused any issues for me or my clients
>here yet.....(crossing fingers..)
>
>I just don't think IBM makes it easy for new customers to buy their equipment and
>if I went with them, I'd always have the lingering suspicion that I was paying too much.
>
>I really hope they change some day... Until then, I just see Dell winning more of the
>server market share.
>
>Regards,
>Matt
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> From: Steven Rosenstein <srosenst(at)us(dot)ibm(dot)com>
> Sent: 12/01/2004 4:17PM
> Subject: Re: [PERFORM] Alternatives to Dell?
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>>>
>>>
>>>I recommend IBM equipment, but in the spirit of caveat emptor I should let
>>>you know I work for IBM... :-)
>>>
>>>Seriously, I've been using IBM laptops and desktops for about 5 years, even
>>>before I started working for them. They tend to be a little more expensive
>>>than Dell, but I think they use beefier components and don't cut the specs
>>>quite as close as Dell does. IBM gear is designed more for industrial use
>>>than home computing, which is reflected in the quality (and the price).
>>>
>>>IBM just released a new series of PowerPC-based servers that are
>>>specifically designed to run Linux. They're at the higher end, but from
>>>what I understand, they provide much more bang for the buck than
>>>Intel-based servers.
>>>
>>>I hope this helps,
>>>--- Steve
>>>________________________________________________________________________
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>>>
>>>Steven Rosenstein
>>>Senior IT Architect/Specialist | IBM Virtual Server Administration
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>>>"Learn from the mistakes of others because you can't live long enough to
>>>make them all yourself." -- Eleanor Roosevelt
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Berkus
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>>> Please respond to
>>> josh
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Folks,
>>>
>>>A lot of people have been having a devilish time with Dell hardware lately.
>>>
>>>It seems like the quality control just isn't there on the Dell servers.
>>>
>>>Thing is, some companies are required to use 1st-tier or at least 2nd-tier
>>>vendors for hardware; they won't home-build. For those people, what
>>>vendors
>>>do others on this list recommend? What have been your good/bad
>>>experiences?
>>>
>>>--
>>>--Josh
>>>
>>>Josh Berkus
>>>Aglio Database Solutions
>>>San Francisco
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