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Re: [CORE] Blacklist all Windows demons ...

From: "Gavin M(dot) Roy" <gmr(at)ehpg(dot)net>
To: "Marc G(dot) Fournier" <scrappy(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Cc: Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>, pgsql-core(at)postgresql(dot)org,pgsql-www(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: [CORE] Blacklist all Windows demons ...
Date: 2004-03-30 19:44:18
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I deal with such things on a fairly regular basis.  If you want an extra 
set of eyes or to chat about who/what/how is causing the ddos and an 
extra opinion on what can be done about it, let me know offlist :)


Marc G. Fournier wrote:

>On Tue, 30 Mar 2004, Josh Berkus wrote:
>>>Well, we can always add in a hearty hello to the US CIA(?) by adding
>>>mention that DDoS attacks are a form of terrorism that hurts the US ppl
>>>more then anyone else, as it affects more sites in the US then the rest of
>>>the world ... maybe we can get some of that anti-terrorism money invested
>>>in electronic terrorism?
>>Hey, make up your mind.  First you make fun of use Americans for our
>>"new Red Scare" and then you want to give the CIA an excuse to go after
>me, was just rambling ... personally, what I'd like to see (or find) is
>some sort of organized movement amongst ISPs themselves to combat the
>problem ... from my scan of Google this morning, apparently there are
>several things that ISPs *can* do to reduce/prevent the occurance of DDoS
>attacks, or, at least make it more difficult to do, but most don't ...
>For instance, how many ISPs out there have anti-spoofing enabled in their
>routers, which, from what I've read, is the biggest thing that a
>cyber-terrorist uses in their DDoS attacks.  I know when I worked at the
>University, *I* had to explain to the network manager that our router even
>supported such a thing :(
>I guess the biggest nightmare as far as tracking down DDoS attacks is the
>attacks come from spoof'd IPs, so without *alot* of work involving
>upstreams, narrowing down where the attack is coming from is near
>impossible :(
>Marc G. Fournier           Hub.Org Networking Services (
>Email: scrappy(at)hub(dot)org           Yahoo!: yscrappy              ICQ: 7615664
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