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Re: Insertion to temp table deteriorating over time

From: "Steven Flatt" <steven(dot)flatt(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: "Tom Lane" <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: pgsql-performance(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: Insertion to temp table deteriorating over time
Date: 2006-12-18 23:06:04
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Please ignore my post from earlier today.  As strange as it sounds, changing
"CREATE TEMP TABLE ... AS" to "CREATE TEMP TABLE ... LIKE" appeared to fix
my performance problem because things errored out so quickly (and silently
in my test program).  After checking the pgsql logs, it became clear to me
that you can't use LIKE on a view.  Duh.

Moving forward, I have also discovered that our temp table did in fact have
a varchar column (no specified limit on varchar).  With this in mind, I
could easily reproduce the problem on a temp table with one column.  So...

Issue #1:

(I'm assuming there's a reasonable explanation for this.)  If I create a
temp table with a single varchar column (or text column), do 100 inserts to
that table, copy to a permanent table, truncate the temp table and repeat,
the time required for the 100 inserts grows almost linearly.  Maybe the data
is treated as large objects.

Note that if I change the column type to varchar(SOME_LIMIT), integer,
timestamptz, interval, etc., performance does not degrade.  Also note that
if I do not use a temp table (but do use a varchar column), inserts are
slower (as expected) but do not degrade over time.  So this seems to be
specific to temp tables with varchar/text column(s).

Issue #2:

As I said earlier, the temp table is created via:

CREATE TEMP TABLE tmp AS SELECT <column-list> FROM perm LIMIT 0;

where perm is a view defined as follows:

View definition:
 SELECT <column-list>
   FROM view2
   JOIN tbl USING (col1, col2)
  WHERE <some-conditions>
 SELECT <column-list>
   FROM view3
   JOIN tbl USING (col1, col2)
  WHERE <some-conditions>;

Now the varchar columns that end up in the perm view come from the tbl
table, but in tbl, they are defined as varchar(40).  Somehow the 40 limit is
lost when constructing the view.  After a little more testing, I found that
this problem only occurs when you are creating a view (i.e. CREATE TABLE ...
AS does not observe this problem) and also that the UNION ALL clause must be
present to observe this problem.

This looks like a bug.  I know this is Postgres 7.4.6 and I haven't been
able to verify with a later version of Postgres, but does this look familiar
to anyone?


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