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Re: create tablespace fails silently, or succeeds improperly

From: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
To: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, Dave Cramer <pg(at)fastcrypt(dot)com>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: create tablespace fails silently, or succeeds improperly
Date: 2010-10-18 19:50:58
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Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> writes:
> On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 3:21 PM, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:
>> Given the use of the version-numbered subdirectory, I see no real merit
>> in insisting that the parent directory be empty anyway. It'd be
>> precisely analogous to "initdb -D /foo/bar/data" insisting that /foo/bar
>> be empty, which we have never done and nobody's ever suggested would be
>> a good idea.

> There aren't a lot of sane use cases for storing other bits of data
> inside either $PGDATA or one of your tablespace directories.
> However...  I guess you might have something like an empty lost+found
> directory if you're creating the tablespace directly on top of a mount
> point, and perhaps there's a good argument that that shouldn't
> interfere.  Or, I think I've run across NAS devices where every
> directory on the system contains a subdirectory called .snapshot, or
> something like that.  So maybe insisting on empty isn't right after
> all.

Yeah.  We have gotten complaints in the past from people who tried to
specify a mount point as a tablespace, and it failed because of
lost+found or the mount dir being root-owned.  We've told them to make a
subdirectory, but that always seemed like a workaround.  With the new
layout there's no longer any strong reason to prevent this case from

Basically, I'm thinking that given CREATE TABLESPACE LOCATION '/foo/bar'
the creation and properties of /foo/bar/PG_9.0_201004261 ought to be
handled *exactly* the way that the -D target directory of initdb is.
We have more than ten years experience behind the assertion that we're
dealing with that case in a good way.  We should transfer that behavior
over to tablespace directories rather than inventing something that
works a shade differently.

Barring objections, I'll go make it work that way in HEAD and 9.0.

			regards, tom lane

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