| From: | Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> | 
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| To: | "David G(dot) Johnston" <david(dot)g(dot)johnston(at)gmail(dot)com> | 
| Cc: | Maciek Sakrejda <maciek(at)pganalyze(dot)com>, "pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-hackers(at)lists(dot)postgresql(dot)org> | 
| Subject: | Re: Casts from jsonb to other types should cope with json null | 
| Date: | 2024-08-03 20:10:13 | 
| Message-ID: | 224048.1722715813@sss.pgh.pa.us | 
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"David G. Johnston" <david(dot)g(dot)johnston(at)gmail(dot)com> writes:
> On Thursday, August 1, 2024, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:
>> I think what is happening there is you're getting the fallback
>> "cast via I/O" behavior.  There's no jsonb->text cast function
>> in the catalogs.
>> Perhaps it's worth adding one, so that it can be made to behave
>> similarly to the casts to other types.
> I’m not too keen on opening Pandora’s box here even if I do regret our
> current choices.  Semantic casting of json scalar strings only, and doing
> document serialization as a function, would have been better in hindsight.
> ...
> I read the discussion thread [1] that added this and while one person
> mentioned json null no one replied to that point and seemingly no explicit
> consideration for treating json null semantically was ever done - i.e. this
> fails only because in json null has its own type, and the test were type,
> not value, oriented.  As SQL null is a value only, whose type is whatever
> holds it, I’d argue our lack of doing this even constitutes a bug but
> wouldn’t - and turning errors into non-errors has a lower “bug acceptance
> threshold”.
Yeah, it's clear that this wasn't thought about too hard, because
I discovered that changing this behavior affects exactly zero existing
regression test cases :-(.  But I still think we should probably
change it.  Aside from ->>, we have other operators/functions that
convert jsonb values to SQL types, such as #>>,
jsonb_array_elements_text, jsonb_each_text, and AFAICS every one
of those translates JSON null to SQL NULL.
Attached are some actual patches for this.  0001 just changes the
existing json-to-scalar casts; since those previously threw
an error, I think that change is not too controversial.  0002 is
POC for changing the behavior of jsonb::text.  I don't think
it's committable as-is, because we have the same behavior for
jsonb::varchar and other string-category target types.  That's
not all that hard to fix, but I've not done so pending a decision
on whether we want 0002.
It strikes me that there's also a question of whether json::text
should translate 'null' like this.  I'm inclined to think not,
since json is in some sense a domain over text, but it's certainly
debatable.
regards, tom lane
| Attachment | Content-Type | Size | 
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| v1-0001-Make-jsonb-casts-to-scalar-types-translate-JSON-n.patch | text/x-diff | 6.7 KB | 
| v1-0002-Make-jsonb-cast-to-text-translate-JSON-null-to-SQ.patch | text/x-diff | 6.1 KB | 
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