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Re: ALTER TABLE ... IF EXISTS feature?

From: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
To: Daniel Farina <drfarina(at)acm(dot)org>
Cc: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, pgsql-hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Noah Zoschke <noah(at)heroku(dot)com>
Subject: Re: ALTER TABLE ... IF EXISTS feature?
Date: 2010-11-30 03:03:44
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Yes, thanks, those are reasonable goals.


Daniel Farina wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 7:21 PM, Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us> wrote:
> > What are we adding a pl/pgsql dependency for? ?What is the benefit that
> > will warrant requiring people who disable plpgsql to enable it for
> > restores?
> There are two use cases I want to cover:
> 1) It should be possible to restore a dump made with --clean on an
> empty database without error, so it can be run in a transaction and
> the error code can be usefully monitored.
> 2) It should be possible a database be dumped and restored by a
> non-superuser, again, cleanly, as per 1.
> It was easy enough to change all the "DROP ..." statements to "DROP
> ... IF EXISTS", but the ALTER statements have no equivalent, and thus
> the only way for a dump created with --clean to run without error is
> to ensure that all table and domain constraints exist prior to
> restore.
> The obvious mechanisms that have come to mind in this thread are:
> * An IF EXISTS variant of ALTER, at least for TABLE and DOMAIN
> (although it may be strange to only support it on a couple of types)
> * Use of anonymous-DO code blocks (the prototype uses this, and this
> depends on plpgsql)
> * Bizarre things I can imagine doing that involve creative queries
> that, as a side effect, might drop objects that I have not mentioned
> because I thought they were too gross to be given serious
> consideration. But it might be plpgsql-less, which would be nice.
> Note that in the case where one wants to dump/restore as a
> non-superuser that one may not be in a position to conveniently do a
> (DROP|CREATE) DATABASE statement to work around the problem.
> --
> fdr

  Bruce Momjian  <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>

  + It's impossible for everything to be true. +

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