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Re: damage control mode

From: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
To: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>
Cc: Andrew Dunstan <andrew(at)dunslane(dot)net>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: damage control mode
Date: 2010-01-08 18:29:01
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Robert Haas wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 1:07 PM, Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us> wrote:
> > Robert Haas wrote:
> >> > You can't move from commitfest to beta until all _known_ bugs are
> >> > fixed/addressed, and you can't move from beta to RC using the same
> >> > criteria.
> >>
> >> Hmm. ?For 8.4, I don't think we actually fixed "all" known bugs - I
> >> think we made a decision about which ones had to be fixed and which
> >> ones we were going to push off, and then did so.
> >
> > Right, we have to decide which ones get pushed to the TODO list, but
> > also consider that several obvious bugs got into the 8.4.0 release,
> > which is something we are going to try to avoid this time.
> True.  It's worth being clear, though I'm sure we're on the same
> wavelength here, that those bugs didn't come from the open items list.
>  They came from stabilization issues related to large patches
> committed in that release cycle.  That's why it seems to me that
> pushing off some of the large patches that were not submitted until
> the final CommitFest is likely to speed up the release.

Yes, these were things that should have showed up in testing, but

> We discussed doing this at the very beginning of 8.4 release cycle
> and, the more I think about it, the more I think it's not fair not to
> go ahead and do it.  Otherwise, we're rewarding people for ignoring a
> guideline that was discussed, and punishing (1) the people who have
> refrained from submitting large patches at the last minute, (2) people
> who would like to see their already-committed patches released on a
> reasonable time frame, and (3) people who don't want the tree to be
> frozen for a near-eternity while we shake out all the bugs that these
> large, last-minute patches introduce.  We're also increasing the
> chances the the final release will contain undiscovered bugs, since
> they will have had ONLY the beta period, and no part of the
> development cycle, to shake out.

Doing what?  Not including HS an SR in 8.5?

  Bruce Momjian  <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>

  + If your life is a hard drive, Christ can be your backup. +

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