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Re: Spoofing as the postmaster

From: Tomasz Ostrowski <tometzky(at)batory(dot)org(dot)pl>
To: Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>
Cc: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Peter Eisentraut <peter_e(at)gmx(dot)net>, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org, Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, Brendan Jurd <direvus(at)gmail(dot)com>
Subject: Re: Spoofing as the postmaster
Date: 2007-12-23 21:41:53
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On Sun, 23 Dec 2007, Magnus Hagander wrote:

> I'm just surprised that people are actually surprised by this. To me,
> it's just a natural fact that happens to pretty much all systems. And a
> good reason not to let arbitrary users run processes that can bind to
> something on your server.

Not everybody works for Enterprise, where price does not matter. I
cannot afford a dedicated servers for database, DNS, e-mail,
antispam, firewall, file, WWW etc. Even administrative overhead would
be too much for one person IT staff. I have to run all of this
and much more on one machine, so I'm interested in limiting rights
for a user for example running WWW, so when, god forbid, compromized,
it'd limit damage.

I am also not able to run sophisticated security frameworks, limiting
every user rights to just what they need, as maintaining it would
require a security full-timer.

So I'm not very fond of this "insecure by default, it's your problem
to make it secure" attitude. I'm the one who reported this.

...although Eating Honey was a very good thing to do, there was a
moment just before you began to eat it which was better than when you
                                                      Winnie the Pooh

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