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Re: Mail archive indexes are broken, URLs too

From: "Marc G(dot) Fournier" <scrappy(at)postgresql(dot)org>
To: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>
Cc: PostgreSQL www <pgsql-www(at)postgresql(dot)org>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Subject: Re: Mail archive indexes are broken, URLs too
Date: 2006-08-09 17:18:14
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Just shutdown rsync while I rebuild the archives for the 'old/new' scheme, 
where old is pre-July 2006 ...

will post once its been all rebuilt ...

On Tue, 1 Aug 2006, Bruce Momjian wrote:

> Is anyone working on this?  Marc?  If not, who can make these
> modifications to the archive numbering?
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Bruce Momjian wrote:
>> Tom Lane wrote:
>>> When Marc fixed the message-boundary pattern and regenerated the
>>> archives, many of the existing messages changed URLs because they
>>> got assigned slightly different numbers.  I notice that the archive
>>> search engine hasn't yet tracked this change --- if you do a search
>>> and click on a link to a message, you'll arrive at a message close
>>> to the one you want but probably not quite it.
>>> Regenerating the archive indexes is presumably not hard, but there's
>>> a bigger problem: for awhile now many of us have been in the habit
>>> of citing old discussions by archive URLs.  All those links are now
>>> broken too, and I can't think of any easy way to fix them.  And then
>>> there's Google etc.
>>> I wonder if it'd be better to revert the regeneration of the archives,
>>> and only apply the new message-boundary pattern to future messages.
>> Agreed.  There have been no changes since we discussed this.
>> The best proposal was to renumber the newly-found items to the end of
>> the numeric range for the pre-July 2006 archives, and to properly number
>> July 2006 and later archives.  And this date range has to be enbedded in
>> the archive script so if it is ever run again, this behavior continues
>> to happen.
>> The longer we take to fix this, the more likely that people are creating
>> URL's that refer to the existing pre-July 2006 numbering which should
>> change.  It needs to be fixed quickly.
>> And we can't just leave it alone because old archive emails have URLs
>> that point to now-incorrect numbers, and there is no good way to fix
>> that everywhere are emails are archived.
>> --
>>   Bruce Momjian   bruce(at)momjian(dot)us
>>   EnterpriseDB
>>   + If your life is a hard drive, Christ can be your backup. +
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> --
>  Bruce Momjian   bruce(at)momjian(dot)us
>  EnterpriseDB
>  + If your life is a hard drive, Christ can be your backup. +

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