Re: pg_config, pg_service.conf, postgresql.conf ....

From: Martijn van Oosterhout <kleptog(at)svana(dot)org>
To: Mark Woodward <pgsql(at)mohawksoft(dot)com>
Cc: josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: pg_config, pg_service.conf, postgresql.conf ....
Date: 2006-02-27 22:51:23
Message-ID: 20060227225123.GF15297@svana.org
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On Mon, Feb 27, 2006 at 03:38:23PM -0500, Mark Woodward wrote:
> Maybe I'm too used to working in engineering groups. I am trying to get
> input for a project. Trying to iron out what the feature set should be and
> the objectives that should be attained. BEFORE I start coding.

Well yes, the problem is that what's been suggested so far doesn't
provide much to give feedback on. It needs to be much more worked out.

> Just saying "submit a patch" is the antithesis to good engineering, it
> works for hacking, but if I am going to develop a feature, I wish to do it
> right and have it appeal to the broadest possible audience, collect as
> much input about the needs of users, etc.

That works, but only as long as it's something a lot of people care
about. This isn't, so until you (or somebody) comes up with a fairly
complete proposal as to how it should interact with the rest of the
system, it's hard to get/give feedback. Sorry, that's the way it works
sometimes.

> Maybe it is that the whiteboard engineering discussion process doesn't
> translate well to this medium.

Yep. the turnaround time is so high and the amount of communication so
low that you pretty much have to submit huge chunks at a time to get
any meaningful work done. The quick turnaround you get on a whiteboard
simply doesn't exist.

Don't take it personally. One effect of this system is the "first-mover
advantage". The first person to implement gets the biggest say in the
final result.

Have a ncie day,

--
Martijn van Oosterhout <kleptog(at)svana(dot)org> http://svana.org/kleptog/
> Patent. n. Genius is 5% inspiration and 95% perspiration. A patent is a
> tool for doing 5% of the work and then sitting around waiting for someone
> else to do the other 95% so you can sue them.

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