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Re: [Bizgres-general] WAL bypass for INSERT, UPDATE and

From: Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us>
To: Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>
Cc: Andrew Dunstan <andrew(at)dunslane(dot)net>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Martijn van Oosterhout <kleptog(at)svana(dot)org>, Greg Stark <gsstark(at)mit(dot)edu>, Rod Taylor <pg(at)rbt(dot)ca>, Qingqing Zhou <zhouqq(at)cs(dot)toronto(dot)edu>, pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: [Bizgres-general] WAL bypass for INSERT, UPDATE and
Date: 2005-12-30 22:52:49
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Simon Riggs wrote:
> On Fri, 2005-12-30 at 16:14 -0500, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > > This was discussed on-list by 2 core team members, a committer and
> > > myself, but I see no requirements change here. You even accepted the
> > > invisible COPY optimization in your last post - why unpick that now?
> > > Please forgive my tone, but I am lost for reasonable yet expressive
> > > words. 
> > 
> > Do you think you are the only one who has rewritten a patch multiple
> > times?  We all have.  The goal is to get the functionality into the
> > system in the most seamless way possible.  Considering the number of
> > people who use PostgreSQL, if it takes use 10 tries, it is worth it
> > considering the thousands of people who will use it.   Would you have us
> > include a sub-optimal patch and have thousands of people adjust to its
> > non-optimal functionality?  I am sure you would not.  Perhaps a company
> > would say, "Oh, just ship it", but we don't.
> You're right. 
> Not like we've not been here before, eh?
> [I'll look at the tech another day]

I know it is discouraging. I have felt it many times myself.  However, I
have to keep my eye on the greater good that we are doing as a project,
and that my frustration is a small price to pay for the greater
usability we will give to our users.

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