Re: can install pg - it's unbelievable

From: Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us>
To: "David B(dot)" <incomex(at)hotmail(dot)com>
Cc: pgsql-bugs(at)postgresql(dot)org
Subject: Re: can install pg - it's unbelievable
Date: 2005-03-28 05:02:51
Message-ID: 200503280502.j2S52pU12764@candle.pha.pa.us
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Why not just download the tarball and compile it? That should work just
fine.

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David B. wrote:
> I have been fighting over this for 3 weeks - 3 weeks people - it's
> unbelievable.
> An rpm package should include all dependencies - why is this so difficult?
>
> PG is a killer program, but what's the use if no one can get it installed.
>
> This thing needs libreadline.so.5 why? why? why does it need it? why not
> compile it
> into the rpm? tell me this, why why why do I have to fight over this over
> and over and over.
>
> I have libreadline.so.5 installed in every single /lib folder I have and it
> still won't install using
> rpm.
>
> I tried installing 8.0.1 with the --nodeps tag and it installed just fine,
> then of course
> the psql command wouldn't work.
>
> I intalled 8.0.something beta2 on my microsoft box and it took less than an
> hour -
> why won't this work?
>
> I have to get this done and it just won't work, I have wasted weeks on this
> and I just can't
> believe that you guys are releasing code that just won't install. There has
> got to be a simple
> solution for this. How many thousands are losing millions over this kind of
> stuff - I just don't see it.
> why do there have to be dependencies in rpms why explain this why why why.
>
> just compile everything into an executable - one big fat executable, or at
> least provide ALL
> of the dependencies in the distribtution so that the rpm can find it and
> install it if it isn't
> already on the system.
>
> I need someone to tell me where I need to put that damned libreadline.so.5
> so that I can
> rpm 8.0.1, I would also like a source for ALL of the other dependecies. I
> can't install any of
> the 8.0.1 stuff because EVERY SINGLE RPM requires dependencies I don't have
> on my system.
> why don't you provide them to begin with.
>
> If I dont' have to have readline, then why require it at all? what function
> does it provide?
> is the lack of readline the reason I couldn't psql into my database?
>
> sorry to pester, but I have no other way to express myself.
>
> If I get the libreadline in the right folder are there more suprises? how
> many other dependencies
> does server need? huh?
>
> I couldn't install server until I had client installed first, I can't
> install client so far because of readline,
> I can't install devel because of a half dozen or so dependencies, I can't
> install contrib because
> of even more dependencies, it's ridiculous. JUST PACKAGE EVERYTHING
> TOGETHER AND BE
> DONE WITH IT. Don't release it, if it isn't right. Please don't cost
> people so much heartache
> by releasing an rpm that doesn't have all of the dependencies, and frankly
> you need to provide
> way way more rpms than just the 3 or so that you seem to have.
>
> I use mandrake 10.1, not debian, not redhat, mandrake - mandrake is huge,
> way more than debian
> and there really isn't a legitimate reason for you to be providing a debian
> distribtution while
> not providing a mandrake one.
>
> In retrospect of the last paragraph, I should back up a bit then, because
> the rpm I got was through
> mandrake cooker not you guys, so you couldn't be responsible for the rpms
> being as crappy as they
> are, so you think you could put a mandrake rpm up?
>
> I tried compiling from source but of course that didn't work either-
> something about needing
> dependencies. Are you seeing a pattern here? NO NO NO NO NO NO GET IT NO
> DEPENDENCIES.
>
> linux and Postgresql are never ever going to be ready for prime time
> consumption at this rate.
> it's a shame.
>
> if you could email me back with some guidellines, please, thanks.
>
> incomex(at)hotmail(dot)com
>
>
>
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