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Re: PostgreSQL flamage on Slashdot

From: Josh Berkus <josh(at)agliodbs(dot)com>
To: Jason Hihn <jhihn(at)paytimepayroll(dot)com>
Cc: PostgreSQL Advocacy <pgsql-advocacy(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: PostgreSQL flamage on Slashdot
Date: 2003-03-19 20:31:51
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Jason, Greg,

> The two share the same development style (open source). Unfortunately, those
> who don't already know, read these articles and get the wrong impressions. I
> know Postgres is more appropriately compared to Oracle, but they don't. If
> they see all the MySQL press and then see how bad it is as a DB, they will
> probably assume that Postgres falls into the same category.
> And sir, when I "buy into their ignorance" it is only to grow the dichotomy
> of the two. Maybe I am wrong, maybe we shouldn't have a MySQL separation
> effort. Maybe we should just let ourselves be lumped in with them. *Shudder*
> I think not. Therefore we must engage in these "battles" against MySQL. I
> think we'd be worse off not fighting them.

But you see, that's exactly my point.  We will *not* differentiate ourselves 
from MySQL by slamming them at every opportunity.  We will only build 
PostgreSQL's user base by championing Postgres' features and 

To give you an analogy:  Three years ago, Willie Brown and Client Reilly were 
the two lead candidates for Mayor of San Francisco.  They spent the first six 
months of their campaign slinging mud at each other ... to the point that 
many San Franciscans said that they would stay home from the polls rather 
than vote for either of them.   Then, on the last day of the filing deadline, 
Tom Ammiano announced that he was running ... and grabbed 49% of the runnoff 

Or another analogy:  Microsoft recently hired a PR think tank to analyze their 
efforts to stamp out Linux through their various FUD campaigns against Linux, 
OSS, and the GPL.  The think tank found out that MS's attempt to slam Linux 
had, in fact, made people more aware of OSS, and more interested in it, than 
they would have been on their own.

I think you can see the analogy, yes?   We should promote Postgresql by 
promoting Postgresql ... NOT by slamming MySQL.

-Josh Berkus
 Aglio Database Solutions
 San Francisco

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