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Re: Upgrading rant.

From: Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us>
To: Greg Copeland <greg(at)copelandconsulting(dot)net>
Cc: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Oliver Elphick <olly(at)lfix(dot)co(dot)uk>,Hannu Krosing <hannu(at)tm(dot)ee>, mlw <pgsql(at)mohawksoft(dot)com>,Lamar Owen <lamar(dot)owen(at)wgcr(dot)org>,PostgresSQL Hackers Mailing List <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Upgrading rant.
Date: 2003-01-06 03:22:32
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Greg Copeland wrote:
> On Sat, 2003-01-04 at 22:37, Tom Lane wrote:
> > You're missing the point: I don't want to lock out everyone but the
> > super-user, I want to lock out everyone, period.  Superusers are just
> > as likely to screw up pg_upgrade as anyone else.
> > 
> > BTW:
> > 
> > $ postmaster -N 1 -c superuser_reserved_connections=1
> > postmaster: superuser_reserved_connections must be less than max_connections.
> > $
> > 
> Well, first, let me say that the above just seems wrong.  I can't think
> of any valid reason why reserved shouldn't be allowed to equal max.  
> I also assumed that pg_update would be attempting to connect as the
> superuser.  Therefore, if you only allow a single connection from the
> superuser and pg_upgrade is using it, that would seem fairly hard to
> mess things up.  On top of that, that's also the risk of someone being a
> superuser.  They will ALWAYS have the power to hose things.  Period.  As
> such, I don't consider that to be a valid argument.

That was my feeling too.  If you can't trust the other admins, it is
hard for us to trust them either.

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