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Re: [PORTS] Re: Quick question

From: Jason Tishler <Jason(dot)Tishler(at)dothill(dot)com>
To: Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: Peter <peter(at)helpnet(dot)com(dot)au>, Pgsql-Cygwin <pgsql-cygwin(at)postgresql(dot)org>, PostgreSQL-ports <pgsql-ports(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: [PORTS] Re: Quick question
Date: 2001-05-10 13:41:28
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On Tue, May 08, 2001 at 10:49:49PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> Can someone evaluate this patch and generate a FAQ patch?

See my comments below.  If my suggestions are deemed acceptable, then I
will generate a FAQ_MSWIN patch.

> > How to install PostgreSQL on Windows NT >>>>>> 4.0 SP6a <<<<<<<

Actually, I would recommend dropping the NT, 2000, etc. because AFAICT
Cygwin PostgreSQL should run whenever Cygwin runs which is all Win32
Intel versions.

> > =======================================================
> > $Date: >>>>>2001/05/07<<<<< $

The above is just a RCS keyword and does not need to be changed.

> > 
> > 1.  Install the Cygwin package.
> > 
> >     The Cygwin package provides a UNIX-like API on top of the Win32
> >     API.  It is available at <>.
> >     >>>>>>>>>> I used 1.3.1. <<<<<<<<

I'm a little leery to recommend 1.3.1 at the moment (I still don't use
it myself).  But, soon the snapshots will all be newer than 1.3.1 anyway.
Hence, I reluctantly recommend changing this to indicate using 1.3.1
or later.

> >     >>>>>>>>>> I installed Cygwin using the administrator id,
> >     set the option to make Cygwin available to all users
> >     and installed all packages.  <<<<<<<<<<

The above seems superfluous so I don't recommend including this in

> > 2.  Install the cygipc package, available at
> >     <>.
> >     >>>>>>> I used 1.09-2. When I first installed it,

I recommend leaving this alone or adding "*latest* cygipc package."
Otherwise, FAQ_MSWIN will have to be updated every time Chuck Wilson
releases a new cygipc distribution.

> >     I used c:\usr and that created a problem
> >     so I changed to c:\cygwin\usr. I do not have a note of the exact problem. <<<<<<<<<

I'm not sure what Peter means by the above, but as long a the user
unpacks the cygipc tarball with a Cygwin tool (as opposed to a Win32 one
such as WinZip) then he/she should not have any problems.  I can add a
suggested command line:

    $ tar -C / -xzf cygipc-1.09-2.tar.gz

> > 3.  Optional:  The "Andy Piper Tools" at <>
> >     are a collection of pre-compiled libraries and utilities that you
> >     might find useful -- especially on Cygwin B20.
> >     >>>>>>>>> Andy no longer has downloadable stuff at his site <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

I agree with Peter that the above should be removed.

> > 4.  The Cygwin bin directory has to be placed in the path before the
> >     Windows program directories, because the sort.exe has to be taken
> >     from Cygwin, not Windows.
> >     >>>>>> A PostgreSQL library has to go in the same path so make one change to:
> >     c:\cygwin\usr\local\pgsql\lib;c:\cygwin\bin;c:\winnt......
> >     <<<<<<<

The above is *not* necessary if the user is using the PostgreSQL supplied
with Cygwin.  I post process make install to copy the appropriate DLLs
(i.e., pq.dll) into usr/bin.

> > 5.  Start ipc-daemon from the cygipc package.  Use "net start ipc-daemon",
> >     if ipc-daemon is installed as a service; otherwise, use "ipc-daemon &".
> >     This program needs to be running anytime you start the PostgreSQL
> >     server (postmaster).
> >     >>>> I logged in as administrator and ran "ipc-daemon --install-as-service" and it worked perfectly.

The above comment is superfluous and should not be added to FAQ_MSWIN.

> > 6.  Proceed according to the INSTALL file.  (./configure; make; etc.)
> >     >>> Note that all the commands in the INSTALL file have to be run
> >     in the Cygwin window, not the NT command line window.

Not true -- only the shell scripts need special treatment such as

    C:\> bash configure

Executables, such as make, run just fine from cmd.exe/
Actually, there are tricks to make shell script run from a Windows

Nevertheless, I can add that it is recommended to proceed according to
the INSTALL file in a bash shell.  I can also add a blurb regarding the
following steps:

    adduser postgres
    su - postgres

and how they map onto NT.

> >     I ran the first part of the PostgreSQL install as administrator
> >     then created the database as administrator then could not access the database form my normal user id
> >     so I deleted the database and recreated the database from my normal logon and everything worked fine.
> >     <<<<<

I believe that the above is just the normal requirement that postmaster
and the database files must be owned by the same user.  Hence, I don't
recommend adding the above to FAQ_MSWIN.

> > NOTE:  The following are known issues with PostgreSQL on Windows:
> > 
> > 1.  Cygwin's AF_UNIX sockets are really implemented as AF_INET sockets
> >     so they are inherently insecure.
> > 
> > 2.  make check can generate spurious regression test failures due to
> >     overflowing the listen() backlog queue which causes connection
> >     refused errors.
> > 
> > Problem reports can be sent to <pgsql-ports(at)postgresql(dot)org>.
> > >>>> Email sent to this address bounced with some message about not being registered.<<<<<

You have already corrected the email address.  I don't know why
Peter's email bounced unless the list is setup to only accept email
from subscribers.


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