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Re: create tablespace fails silently, or succeeds improperly

From: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
To: Peter Eisentraut <peter_e(at)gmx(dot)net>
Cc: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, Dave Cramer <pg(at)fastcrypt(dot)com>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: create tablespace fails silently, or succeeds improperly
Date: 2010-12-12 23:10:41
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Peter Eisentraut <peter_e(at)gmx(dot)net> writes:
> On mn, 2010-10-18 at 15:50 -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
>> Basically, I'm thinking that given CREATE TABLESPACE LOCATION '/foo/bar'
>> the creation and properties of /foo/bar/PG_9.0_201004261 ought to be
>> handled *exactly* the way that the -D target directory of initdb is.
>> We have more than ten years experience behind the assertion that we're
>> dealing with that case in a good way.  We should transfer that
>> behavior over to tablespace directories rather than inventing
>> something that works a shade differently.

> I'm still struggling with the above argument.  In one case you are
> applying a behavior to the argument given to initdb, in the other case
> you are applying the behavior to a subdirectory of the argument given to
> CREATE TABLESPACE.  I'm not saying the solution is necessarily wrong,
> but it doesn't seem that this will make things easier or more
> consistent.

Well, it is only an argument by analogy, but the proposal does fix the
IMO-clear misbehavior complained of way back at the start of this

> An idle thought: How about creating a version-subdirectory also in the
> PGDATA path.  The point about mountpoint annoyance applies here just as
> well.  And it could also make the directory juggling during in-place
> upgrade more normalized and robust.

I can't get excited about it.  That would break every existing tool that
looks into PGDATA, for a fairly marginal simplification during version
upgrades.  To give just one example of the pain we'd be letting
ourselves in for, pg_ctl would now become extremely version-specific.
You couldn't even get away with using the wrong copy of pg_ctl during a
reinstall after a catversion bump during development.

			regards, tom lane

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