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Re: [HACKERS] plPHP in core?

From: Robert Treat <xzilla(at)users(dot)sourceforge(dot)net>
To: Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)dcc(dot)uchile(dot)cl>
Cc: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>,Andrew Dunstan <andrew(at)dunslane(dot)net>,"Marc G(dot) Fournier" <scrappy(at)postgresql(dot)org>,"Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>,"Psql_General (E-mail)" <pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org>,PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: [HACKERS] plPHP in core?
Date: 2005-04-04 21:19:46
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On Mon, 2005-04-04 at 17:03, Alvaro Herrera wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 04, 2005 at 04:48:50PM -0400, Robert Treat wrote:
> > If by "stripped down" you mean without postgresql database support then
> > I'll grant you that, but it is no different than other any other pl
> > whose parent language requires postgresql to be installed.  If packagers
> > are able to handle those languages than why can't they do the same with
> > PHP ?
> Because those other languages are well designed and PHP is not.  The
> Postgres support package for Perl is a completely separate add-on, which
> you can add well after the core of Perl is installed.  Same for Python.
> But PHP is a braindead package which includes the Postgres support in
> the main codebase.
> The problem is that even if you could build a Postgres support package
> for PHP without building the whole PHP (which you _can_ do AFAIK), it
> means that you need to make a second pass at the PHP source RPM, which
> will be probably rejected by packagers.

ISTM this is a problem with the packaging as much as it is with PHP, but
in neither case is this a problem for PostgreSQL. ISTM decisions as to
what is included in PostgreSQL core should not be based on the design
decisions of one vendors packaging scheme IMHO.

> I think the problem could be solved if we were to include PHP in the
> main CVS, but not distribute it in the same tarball.  So the code is
> kept where it really belongs, and we allow building both things
> separately for the packagers' sake.
> -- 
> Alvaro Herrera (<alvherre[(at)]dcc(dot)uchile(dot)cl>)
> "If it wasn't for my companion, I believe I'd be having
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