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Re: Left Outer Join Syntax

From: Steve Tucknott <steve(at)retsol(dot)co(dot)uk>
To: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: PostGreSQL <pgsql-novice(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Left Outer Join Syntax
Date: 2004-08-14 16:57:45
Message-ID: 1092502667.1255.63.camel@retsol1 (view raw, whole thread or download thread mbox)
Lists: pgsql-novice
Thanks for that.
I'll be testing the converted system thoroughly, so should pick up all
the anomalies that I've introduced! 
I can now finish off some of the more obscure joins in the code before I
start the data import and then testing.

On Sat, 2004-08-14 at 16:44, Tom Lane wrote:

    Steve Tucknott <steve(at)retsol(dot)co(dot)uk> writes:
    > How do I include the join of table F to table D where F.colD = D.colF in
    > the case where 1) F is a LEFT OUTER and 2) where F is plain (INNER?)
    > join   
    I think you just want to parenthesize the join constructs:
    	(a left join (f left join d on somecondition) on somecondition)
    	(a left join (f join d on somecondition) on somecondition)
    However you need to be clear in your mind about the semantic behavior
    you want before you can pick a join order, and your question certainly
    didn't give enough detail for anyone to offer advice.  In either one of
    the above examples, D rows that don't have a join partner in F will
    disappear before they get to the A join, resulting in different results
    than you had before --- that is, some A rows that were joined to D rows
    would now be extended with with nulls.  If any of those rows make it to
    the final output then you will see a different and probably less useful
    The short form of my point is that outer joins aren't associative and so
    the order in which you do them matters a lot.  The reason JOIN is
    syntactically like an operator is so that you can control that ordering
    through parentheses.
    			regards, tom lane
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