Re: Merchandising, merchandising.. on the postgresql.eu site

From: Thom Brown <thombrown(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>
Cc: Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org>, rod <rod(at)iol(dot)ie>, Tommy Gildseth <tommy(dot)gildseth(at)usit(dot)uio(dot)no>, pgeu-general <pgeu-general(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Merchandising, merchandising.. on the postgresql.eu site
Date: 2009-11-26 13:58:15
Message-ID: bddc86150911260558x5abc86f6me702a4d5c2772ce8@mail.gmail.com
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2009/11/25 Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>

> On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 13:01, Thom Brown <thombrown(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> > 2009/11/25 Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 12:49, Thom Brown <thombrown(at)gmail(dot)com> wrote:
> >> > 2009/11/24 Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 15:13, Thom Brown <thombrown(at)gmail(dot)com>
> wrote:
> >> >> > 2009/11/24 Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 15:37, Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org>
> wrote:
> >> >> >> > On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Thom Brown <
> thombrown(at)gmail(dot)com>
> >> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >> >> 2009/11/17 Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org>
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>> On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Thom Brown
> >> >> >> >>> <thombrown(at)gmail(dot)com>
> >> >> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >> >> >>> > Okay, Spreadshirt's bulk ordering department have come back
> >> >> >> >>> > saying
> >> >> >> >>> > they can make exceptions to their rules depending on
> >> >> >> >>> > anticipated
> >> >> >> >>> > volumes. Is there a way for us to gauge demand for
> particular
> >> >> >> >>> > items?
> >> >> >> >>> > If we knew certain items would sell well, I'm sure they'd be
> >> >> >> >>> > able
> >> >> >> >>> > to
> >> >> >> >>> > accommodate us.
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>> I don't think we have any real way of telling how popular an
> >> >> >> >>> item
> >> >> >> >>> might
> >> >> >> >>> be.
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>> > In any case, where do we go from here? Is someone able to
> >> >> >> >>> > make a
> >> >> >> >>> > decision at this point, or is more information required? Do
> >> >> >> >>> > you
> >> >> >> >>> > want
> >> >> >> >>> > me to look into more online stores for options (please
> suggest
> >> >> >> >>> > some
> >> >> >> >>> > if
> >> >> >> >>> > so), or find out any more information before deciding?
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>> Well, aside from the couple of items they don't have, it seems
> >> >> >> >>> to
> >> >> >> >>> me
> >> >> >> >>> like Spreadshirt offer the best option for us. Anyone
> disagree?
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> *ping*
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > OK to go ahead Magnus?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Sounds like a go for me.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> A quick check makes it look like we need to create a single pgeu
> >> >> >> account with them, to run the store from. As in, it's not possible
> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> create a store and have multiple accounts manage it. In that case,
> >> >> >> it
> >> >> >> seems like we should create an @postgresql.eu address for it, and
> >> >> >> register that, from the beginning - and then just hand out the
> >> >> >> password to someone interested in doing the grunt work :-) Can
> >> >> >> someone
> >> >> >> confirm that this would be the way to do it?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I've fired off a couple emails to Spreadshirt. One was to see if
> we
> >> >> > could
> >> >> > get a discount for choosing them (as there appear to be affiliates
> >> >> > who
> >> >> > offer
> >> >> > discounts for joining Spreadshirt anyway) and the other to see if
> >> >> > there
> >> >> > is
> >> >> > any way of managing a shop with more than one account. If they
> can't
> >> >> > move
> >> >> > on that 2nd one, I can't see a problem with it being managed from a
> >> >> > single
> >> >> > account.
> >> >>
> >> >> Nope, not really. It's just easier to delegate and remove delegations
> >> >> if they're off separate accounts, but it's certainly not a
> >> >> dealbreaker.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > Okay, their email didn't answer my question so gave them a call and
> >> > explained that we'd want multiple logins to manage a single shop, but
> >> > they
> >> > said it didn't work like that. Only 1 account per shop, but multiple
> >> > shops
> >> > per account (not what we want). They made it clear that if you had
> >> > several
> >> > people managing the shop, you would have to share the account details
> >> > round.
> >>
> >> Fair enough, so we'll do it that way.
> >>
> >>
> >> > As for the discount, they said the only discount available is a 5%
> >> > discount
> >> > off the base price if booked through 1&1. This might not be a good
> idea
> >> > even if we did this as it could link the account to a 1&1 account in
> >> > some
> >> > way.
> >>
> >> Enlighten me, what does it mean to be "booked through 1&1"? :-)
> >>
> >
> > 1&1 customers (1&1 is a hosting company) have a link in their
> administration
> > control panel which links to Spreadshirt with a discount applied.
>
> Ah, I see. Yeah, I don't think we want to get locked into something like
> that.
>
>
So now I imagine we need someone to set up the store and link it to
PostgreSQL Europe's bank account, someone to co-ordinate designs (or at
least come up with a few to put on there, maybe a wiki page with ideas for
designs including posted image examples) and someone to subsequently make
this available on the European site. There also needs to be a decision on
item pricing and what items to make available. How's this going to work?
Anything else you want me to do? And is this mailing list still an
appropriate forum for these discussions?

Cheers

Thom

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