Re: Addled index

From: Greg Jaskiewicz <gryzman(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: Oleg Alexeev <oalexeev(at)gmail(dot)com>, "pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org" <pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Addled index
Date: 2013-03-18 11:55:30
Message-ID: DD13FFD2-134B-4D25-949C-D55B4E941D45@gmail.com
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On 17 Mar 2013, at 04:30, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us> wrote:

> Oleg Alexeev <oalexeev(at)gmail(dot)com> writes:
>> * it is varchar columns, 256 and 32 symbols length
>> * encoding, collation and ctype: UTF8, en_US.utf8, en_US.utf8
>> * autovacuum, fsync off, full_page_writes = on, wal_writer_delay = 500ms,
>> commit_delay = 100, commit_siblings = 10, checkpoint_timeout = 20min,
>> checkpoint_completion_target = 0.7
>> * postgres 9.2.3 installed via yum repository for version 9.2
>> * 64 bit Centos 6, installed and updated from yum repository
>
> fsync off? Have you had any power failures or other system crashes?
> ext4 is *way* more prone than ext3 was to corrupt data when fsync is
> disabled, because it caches and reorders writes much more aggressively.
>
>> Database located on software md raid 1 based on two SSD disks array. Ext4
>> filesystem. Database is master node.
>
> Meh. I quote from the RHEL6 documentation (Storage Administration
> Guide, Chapter 20: Solid-State Disk Deployment Guidelines):
>
>> Red Hat also warns that software RAID levels 1, 4, 5, and 6 are not
>> recommended for use on SSDs.
>
> https://access.redhat.com/knowledge/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/Storage_Administration_Guide/newmds-ssdtuning.html
>
> The part of the docs I'm looking at only asserts that performance is
> bad, but considering that it's a deprecated combination, it may well be
> that there are data-loss bugs in there. I'd certainly suggest making
> sure you are on a *recent* kernel. If that doesn't help, reconsider
> your filesystem choices.
>
Yeah, I don't think I'd consider using software raid for SSDs any time a good idea

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