Re: pgFoundry Download URLs

From: Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>
To: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: "David E(dot) Wheeler" <david(at)justatheory(dot)com>, Stefan Kaltenbrunner <stefan(at)kaltenbrunner(dot)cc>, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)commandprompt(dot)com>, Devrim GÜNDÜZ <devrim(at)gunduz(dot)org>, Magnus Hagander <magnus(at)hagander(dot)net>, jd <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>, Dave Page <dpage(at)pgadmin(dot)org>, Guillaume Smet <guillaume(dot)smet(at)gmail(dot)com>, PostgreSQL www <pgsql-www(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: pgFoundry Download URLs
Date: 2009-12-30 05:51:51
Message-ID: 603c8f070912292151l7c4b973eue605336994e2c427@mail.gmail.com
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2009/12/29 Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>:
> Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com> writes:
>> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 3:17 PM, David E. Wheeler <david(at)justatheory(dot)com> wrote:
>>> Even worse is projects like pgTAP include a .spec file in the distribution. But I can't have an accurate URL in the .spec file until I've uploaded the distribution. I could then update the spec file, create a new tarball and upload it again with the proper URL, but then it'd have *another* fucking ID. I can't win.
>
>> I realize this isn't funny at all, but I'm LMAO reading it...  what a
>> pain in the tail.
>
> The notion that spec files can be expected to have an exact URL for a
> source file is one of the sillier flights of fancy that I've had to deal
> with in my time packaging stuff for Red Hat/Fedora.  There are way too
> many sites with way too many creative notions about making you click
> here or redirecting your click to some mirror-of-the-moment.  What would
> be a sane design is to have a URL for a page where a human could be
> expected to look to find the file to be downloaded.  I'd say less than
> half of my RH packages actually have wget-able URLs in the Source:
> lines.  The rest require a certain amount of interpretation.
>
> Which is not to say that it wouldn't be nice if pgfoundry were
> better-than-average on this point.  But it's not worse than average;
> it's right in line with the generally abysmal state of persistent URIs.

Awesome. :-(

...Robert

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