Re: plz unsubscribe me

From: "Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>
To: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: Bill Moran <wmoran(at)collaborativefusion(dot)com>, rama krishna <arkr505(at)gmail(dot)com>, pgsql-general <pgsql-general(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: plz unsubscribe me
Date: 2006-08-30 17:05:02
Message-ID: 44F5C53E.7040803@commandprompt.com
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Tom Lane wrote:
> "Joshua D. Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com> writes:
>> Bill Moran wrote:
>>> Instructions are in the mail headers of each message:
>
>> Actually it is quite ridiculous that we expect someone to read the mail
>> headers.
>
> Those headers are really there for mail programs to read. On my MUA
> (a several-years-old version of exmh), messages containing these headers
> causes an additional menu entry to appear, with List/Unsubscribe and
> some other options. I suppose there are still people using mailers that
> don't know about RFC2369, but considering that that standard was
> published in 1998, there's not a whole lot of excuse for that.

Thunderbird, which I expect MANY of our community users are using does
nothing with those headers (as far as I can tell).

Outlook and Outlook express, which many of our community users will be
using in the future (by nature of our win32 port) to my knowledge does
nothing with those headers.

I know that Evolution has some functionality based on those headers, but
no one in their right might would use it (yes that it a blatant smack).

I also seriously doubt that Apple Mail or Mac Mail (whatever it is
called) does anything with the headers either.

>
> In any case, we also expend bandwidth on a couple of footer TIPs that
> remind people how to unsubscribe. Maybe one of them should explicitly
> say that mailing to the list is not the way.

Our lists (the @postgresql.org ones) are the only lists to which I
subscribe that do not put the unsubscribe info at the bottom of every
email sent to the list.

Sincerely,

Joshua D. Drake

>
> regards, tom lane
>

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