Re: Preventing index scans for non-recoverable index AMs

From: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
To: Peter Eisentraut <peter_e(at)gmx(dot)net>
Cc: Greg Stark <greg(dot)stark(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, Heikki Linnakangas <heikki(dot)linnakangas(at)enterprisedb(dot)com>, Pavan Deolasee <pavan(dot)deolasee(at)gmail(dot)com>, Jeff Davis <pgsql(at)j-davis(dot)com>, Kenneth Marshall <ktm(at)rice(dot)edu>, Jaime Casanova <jcasanov(at)systemguards(dot)com(dot)ec>, Simon Riggs <simon(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>, pgsql-hackers <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Preventing index scans for non-recoverable index AMs
Date: 2008-12-18 14:57:14
Message-ID: 25874.1229612234@sss.pgh.pa.us
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Peter Eisentraut <peter_e(at)gmx(dot)net> writes:
> Greg Stark wrote:
>> It would be perfectly reasonable to add an amisrecoverable like Simon
>> described. It could automatically set indisvalid to false after a crash
>> and treat the index as if indisvalid is false during recovery. That
>> would be a lot smoother and safer than what we have now.
>>
>> It might even be possible to do this with a new wal record type so it
>> only happens if there was a write to the index. I imagine most users who
>> read that warning and use hash indexes anyways are using them on
>> read-only tables where they know it's safe.

> This is essentially Alvaro's suggestions, which Simon has already given
> a counterargument to.

The long and the short of it is that the reason hash indexes still don't
have WAL support is no one's seen fit to do the work. I do not see the
point of proposing to expend work to substitute for that work.

I think all that ought to be done here is document that hash indexes
shouldn't be used in a replication or PITR environment.

regards, tom lane

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