Re: Remaining beta blockers

From: Andres Freund <andres(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>
To: Alvaro Herrera <alvherre(at)2ndquadrant(dot)com>
Cc: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, Greg Stark <stark(at)mit(dot)edu>, Kevin Grittner <kgrittn(at)ymail(dot)com>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas(at)gmail(dot)com>, Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>, Noah Misch <noah(at)leadboat(dot)com>, "pgsql-hackers(at)postgreSQL(dot)org" <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Remaining beta blockers
Date: 2013-05-03 16:19:27
Message-ID: 20130503161927.GD10957@alap2.anarazel.de
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On 2013-05-03 12:15:27 -0400, Alvaro Herrera wrote:
> Bruce Momjian escribió:
> > On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 05:24:54PM +0200, Andres Freund wrote:
>
> > > The problem with an extra metadata fork is that it essentially would
> > > double the files in a cluster and it would also noticeably increase the
> > > amount of open files we need.
> > > There have been quite some complaints about CREATE DATABASE speed, I
> > > am not sure we want to make it even slower :(
> >
> > Agreed. We start to get into file system performance issues at that
> > point. I have often wondered if we need to create hash the files into
> > subdirectories for databases with many tables. Has anyone profiled
> > this?
>
> Modern filesystems use trees to store file nowadays, not linear arrays,
> and so that old scenario (long time to find one specific directory entry
> within a directory containing lots of files) is no longer that serious a
> problem.

Absolutely. Also, we normally shouldn't open/close files constantly
since we cache open files so open(2) performance shouldn't be *that*
critical.

Greetings,

Andres Freund

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