Re: Not ready for 8.3

From: Oleg Bartunov <oleg(at)sai(dot)msu(dot)su>
To: "Joshua D(dot) Drake" <jd(at)commandprompt(dot)com>
Cc: Bruce Momjian <bruce(at)momjian(dot)us>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: Not ready for 8.3
Date: 2007-05-15 18:11:48
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.64.0705152210290.12152@sn.sai.msu.ru
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We have new patch available
http://www.sigaev.ru/misc/tsearch_core-0.47.gz
to sync with CVS HEAD.

Oleg
On Tue, 15 May 2007, Joshua D. Drake wrote:

> Bruce Momjian wrote:
>> Based on our progress during this feature freeze, we will not complete
>> the feature freeze until August/September. I think we need adjust
>> expectations about an 8.3 release date, and decide if we want to
>> radically change our work process.
>>
>> Basically, to make a release anywhere near July, we need 10x more
>> progress than we have had, which is unlikely.
>
> Or we have another short release cycle, basically accepting what we have now
> that can be worked through in the next 3 weeks and committed. If it can't be
> done in that time, it waits. Then we have beta etc...
>
>>
>> We could ship what is in CVS now, but that just pushes the patches for
>> 8.4, and isn't fair to patch submitters. We could shove what we have
>> now into CVS, but that is unwise.
>
> Sure it is, if we have a short release cycle. There are plenty of things out
> there that are not quite ready yet, that could be if we released again next
> January...
>
>
>>
>> I think the only other thing we _could_ do is to re-open normal 8.3
>> development, so we aren't hampering updates to trivial parts of the
>> code. Many of the patches now in the queue had been developed for months
>
> Gah, that sounds like a horrible solution. Sorry Bruce.
>
>>
>> The question is whether it is healthy for us to remain in feature freeze
>> for months, and if it is unhealthy, what are our options?
>>
>> Patch status:
>>
>> http://developer.postgresql.org/index.php/Todo:PatchStatus
>
> If... this is actually a problem (I leave to other committers and reviewers
> to comment) then I suggest we push all patches without a reviewer as of now
> to 8.4.
>
> Leaving only those patches that have confirmed reviewers to be worked
> through.
>
> FYI, whoever did that Todo:Patch status, Bravo! That is easily one of the
> smallest but best improvements to the process I have seen in recent memory.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Joshua D. Drake
>
>
>
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Regards,
Oleg
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