Re: undefine currval()

From: "scott(dot)marlowe" <scott(dot)marlowe(at)ihs(dot)com>
To: Tom Lane <tgl(at)sss(dot)pgh(dot)pa(dot)us>
Cc: Bruce Momjian <pgman(at)candle(dot)pha(dot)pa(dot)us>, <cgg007(at)yahoo(dot)com>, <pgsql-sql(at)postgresql(dot)org>
Subject: Re: undefine currval()
Date: 2003-09-09 13:13:56
Message-ID: Pine.LNX.4.33.0309090709550.13569-100000@css120.ihs.com
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On Mon, 8 Sep 2003, Tom Lane wrote:

> "scott.marlowe" <scott(dot)marlowe(at)ihs(dot)com> writes:
> > On Mon, 8 Sep 2003, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> >> I don't know how you could have an application that doesn't know if it
> >> has issued a nextval() in the current connection. Unless you can explain
> >> that, we have no intention of playing tricks with currval() for
> >> connection pooling.
>
> > Actually, I would think the very act of using connection pooling would
> > ensure that applications may well not know whether or not a nextval had
> > been called.
>
> The point is that it's not very sensible to be using currval except
> immediately after a nextval --- usually in the same transaction, I would
> think.

I'm pretty sure my second paragraph agreed with you on that.

> Certainly, not resetting currval implies that there is
> *potential* coupling between different transactions that happen to share
> a connection. But ISTM that such coupling would represent a bug in the
> application.

And that one too.

> Chris said he was using currval being undefined to know that no rows
> were inserted, but this seems less than compelling to me (why not look
> at the results of the insert commands you used?). I'd support adding a
> currval-reset feature if someone can make a more compelling argument why
> a connection-pooling application would need it.

I'd say that if someone is looking at that, it would be better to have
some kind of reset_connection call that makes a connection look like you
just established it.

Bit I'd never use it.

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